No, but they'll be out the money it cost to rent and the time it took to watch when there are infinitely better shows out there to watch.

that's also an option, if another show entices you... hey, go for it! But if you wanna comment about a show, at least know what you're saying c'mon...

Bells, this is just hella awful arguing. You're not actually substantively responding to the merits of my claims, you're just saying "You're wrong and you don't know about what you're talking about" without actually PROVING ME WRONG with examples and evidence, and that's the most important step.

I've watched more than twelve episodes in their entirety.
Not to mention scenes from at least a dozen more, but let's assume that watching a scene or two in an episode doesn't suffice because I might take something out of context.
If it takes more than twelve episodes to achieve more than a "minimalistic" understanding of a television show, then it's a really bad television show.

Sadly, I feel confident in claiming those have happened here.
 

I'm pretty sure disliking a television show isn't half as bad as sexism, homophobia, or misogyny, so clearly not our worst thread.

I dunno man, I skimmed the first five posts of this one and it seemed really awful. It could be up there.

Ok, I might be taking the joke to far there. So, to at least add something slightly on topic, I've watched Big Bang Theory. It occasionally makes me laugh. If I'm stuck in front of a TV for half an hour and it's on, I might switch over to watch it. I wouldn't nominate it for any awards or anything, but as a way to waste a little time? I've got no problems with it.

... I have problems with my family comparing me to Sheldon all the time, but that's really another matter all together...

Honestly? It's not the worst show out there. And it's kinda funny. If you don't like it, that's fair. World would be a weird place if taste was universal. But I do like it, so if y'all could drop the 'everyone who likes this crap is a moron' angle that feels like it's circling around, that'd be peaches. I'm not saying anyone's saying that, it just feels implied.

Edit: Obviously Smarty is exempt from the above.

Persona 4: Golden is one of my top ten videogames of all time, but that doesn't mean I'm incapable of criticizing it for its atrocious bigotry and misogyny.
I've laughed at a joke in Big Bang too. Probably more than one of them, in fact. Doesn't mean I can't criticize the show for advancing some fucking disgusting messages.

Yes, that is entirely your right, and I support your use of it! Of course you should point these things out. It's healthy debate, and I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with you on at least the basics of "This is terrible behaviour and shouldn't be done".

You're not the only one in this thread though, and the sentiments that are making me feel a little defensive are still out there.

Lurking...

Fair enough... allow me to just take this example

This is simply wrong about the show.

Raj is indeed Shy, and he does indeed uses Alcohol to "loosen up" . In typical Sitcom fashion, everything is magnified.

Thing is, in Canon, Raj suffers from Selective Mutism, a very real psychiatric disorder connected to Anxiety disorder, which his character also has and is related to his shyness.

Played for comedic effect, he finds out that being lightly drunk reduces his anxiety and shyness, allowing him to temporally overcome his condition. The show also develops that his condition was bred in a highly controlled Indian High Social Cast environment where both his parents where constantly trying to control and guide his love life (one of the reasons he came to the USA).

Then, when you point out that this is the show forcing that "Alcohol fixes all problems" only comes back as wrong because again and again the show does the exact opposite of that... Raj, having found a Chemical solution to his social disorder, never really confronts it. And even though, he tries, the alcohol keeps making him fail, preventing him from succeeding in social and emotional affairs alike.

The show never pounces on his shyness, it never makes light or pokes fun of his disorder. he is never anti-social (he is actually the most social of the group), but he has a social disorder played for comedic effect because this is a sitcom about dysfunctional "fish out of water" people ...like pretty much all sitcoms ever. Leonard being the closest thing to the "straight man" role to serve as mirror to the others.

All of this is shown before the end of the first 3 seasons and there have been full episodes dedicated to that. And you didn't catch any of that...

I'm going to steer this thread into a more productive angle- we are going to determine the worst tv show of all time through a cunning bracket system. Please vote for the worst show in the following 3 brackets:
Friends vs the Big Bang Theory
Will and Grace vs The Love Boat
2 Broke Girls vs Rob
Then suggest a show for the mystery 4th fan bracket.

The sarah silverman program vs does'nt matter cause the Sarah Silverman program sucked ass?