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Bells 02-02-2013 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcanum (Post 1223086)
Guys Snake broke again. I'm not chipping in for the mechanic this time.

Some duct tape and cookie dough should suffice this time...

Solid Snake 02-02-2013 02:17 AM

Protip: When everyone says you're being racist, DON'T KEEP DIGGING
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobinStarwing (Post 1223087)
Because you see...I NEVER want to revisit that very poor choice in words again however you and Kim seem intent on riding in on your intellectual white high horses. All a glitter in your vanity armor of white knight defender of everything that you see as just and rightous and expect me to let you talk.

...Oh my God.

I am Arin in this video right now.

Grimpond 02-02-2013 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobinStarwing (Post 1223087)
I had just finished and posted that after you posted yours. I am just nwo beyond even caring anymore and want to move back to the original topic.

Because you see...I NEVER want to revisit that very poor choice in words again however you and Kim seem intent on riding in on your intellectual white high horses. All a glitter in your vanity armor of white knight defender of everything that you see as just and rightous and expect me to let you talk.

Well guess what, I will let you as while I disagree with you, I can't stop you. No-one can but yourselves. So go ahead thinking me a racist based on what are slips of the tongue or based on MY experiences with other people as a whole. You get too as that is what is the First Amendment is about, Freedom of Speech. Another great thing about this country, you get to sound as stupid and wrong as you want and nobody gets to stop you for doing so.

Discussion over.

We're basing these assumptions on all your posts and all your "talks" in the chat.

EDIT: also you're kind of off on the first amendment.
Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_A...s_Constitution

RobinStarwing 02-02-2013 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimpond (Post 1223092)
We're basing these assumptions on all your posts and all your "talks" in the chat.

EDIT: also you're kind of off on the first amendment.
Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_A...s_Constitution

That's not news. I know why you all think it. I've just given up trying to clarify myself as it just gets twisted.

Also, please cite the specific examples you are citing for this thread please. It's 1:30 in the morning here.

Solid Snake 02-02-2013 02:29 AM

SUMMARY OF THIS THREAD incoming
 
Robin: "Then why does China try to steal so much from the US and other Western Nations?"
Note: (Can't possibly be referencing merely the Chinese government with this sentiment as it doesn't fit with his argument, the Chinese political structures 'borrow' comparatively little from America and more from Civil Law European countries, and Robin happens to believe that China should borrow MORE from America in terms of governance. That direct quote IS RACIST. It's absolutely untrue and a ludicrous generalization.)

People: Stop being racist, Robin!

Robin: I hate the Chinese government, not its people! Here are more reasons why America is great and better than China!!!

Me: Let's assume that's true. Allow me to write a lengthy, reasonable post debunking some of the Westphalian political foundations, undermine that flawed position and let's have a well-reasoned, nuanced discussion!

Robin: Fuck that I'm going to ignore nearly everything you typed and illegitimately demonize a government I don't seem to know very much about!

Me: Please stop ignoring things I'm writing, and also please articulate exactly what you do not know or may erroneously believe about the Chinese government so I can correct assumptions you made that may be incorrect!!!

Robin: STOP BEING A WHITE KNIGHT AND ALSO I AM NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING A SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION I JUST WANT TO INSULT YOU, INSULT THE CHINESE AND I HAVE A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO SAY ALL THE STUPID THINGS I WANT

Me: AKLSjfdklsafjakjfioawetoywayr98#**#%Hjhs28937@#&$* #

...and thats when Snake mind broke

Grandmaster_Skweeb 02-02-2013 02:35 AM

McDonald's (Fuck Yeah!)
Wal-Mart (Fuck Yeah!)
The Gap (Fuck Yeah!)
Baseball (Fuck Yeah!)
The NFL (Fuck Yeah!)
Rock N' Roll (Fuck Yeah!)
Starbucks (Fuck Yeah!)
Disneyworld (Fuck Yeah!)
Porno (Fuck Yeah!)
Valium (Fuck Yeah!)
Reeboks (Fuck Yeah!)
Fake Tits (Fuck Yeah!)
Sushi (Fuck Yeah!)
Taco Bell (Fuck Yeah!)
Rodeos (Fuck Yeah!)
Bed, Bath and Beyond (Fuck yeah..Fuck Yeah)
Liberty (Fuck Yeah!)
White Slips (Fuck Yeah!)
The Alamo (Fuck Yeah!)
Band-aids (Fuck Yeah!)
Las Vegas (Fuck Yeah!)
Christmas (Fuck Yeah!)
Immigrants (Fuck Yeah!)
Popeyes (Fuck Yeah!)
Democrats (Fuck Yeah!)
Republicans (..Fuck Yeah..Fuck Yeah)

That about covers the bases!

Solid Snake 02-02-2013 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobinStarwing (Post 1223087)
So go ahead thinking me a racist based on what are slips of the tongue or based on MY experiences with other people as a whole

"Don't believe I'm a racist just because I am stereotyping more than a billion people of an ethnic origin, by my own admission, based on MY negative personal experiences with them."
Oh my fucking
I don't
Do you even
I can't
Racism is literally defined as
Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

RobinStarwing 02-02-2013 02:50 AM

Thanks for the effort Skweeb but I doubt even that could save this thread at this point. I just fucking give up. I'm regretting making this shitpile of a thread now.

PyrosNine 02-02-2013 02:52 AM

The moral of the story is that China isn't a giant Commie Reich hellhole ruled by the Ghost of Chairman Mao, there are many benefits of living in America, and that people can still live within the boundaries of a nation and still consider themselves asAnti-nationalist as all get out.

A well worded, clarified response can't be made in a kneejerk reactionary post at midnight in the country you live in that you are attacking and/or defending, and any reasonable and articulate response written with precision takes time and a clear head. If somebody disagrees with you, take the time to consider why they disagree with you, and consider if some of their points may possess some points that may be true, if not wholly. Consider the intent of their disagreement versus the effect that may arise from poor word choice and ill logic. Then consider your own argument, make at least a generous effort to find any flaws in your own word choice, logic, and previous arguments made.

Concede your own errors, concede where your opponent is correct, or where you can see what they meant versus what they said, clarify your opponent's own argument in terms as you understand it, and then submit your well worded, labored reply. The force of the effort alone can make even crappy arguments sound better than a lazy one, and if you believe that your argument is a worthy one, then it is worthy of the effort being put in it.

And if your opponent hits you with one, rise to the challenge and try to match him.

If the response is lacking (Nuh-uh!), or merely a repetition of previous points, or you feel that no amount of words will change his mind, then realize that any further time and effort will be wasted, and simply say "Fine, we disagree." and stop posting. End it there, be brave enough to risk being called a coward or the loser of the argument by the immature, and just stop posting and not beat the god damn thread to death!

I swear to god, all I would have to do to get a 20 page thread would be to start one off with an offhand "All mexicans are lazy" joke and watch the shitstorm. An extra 20 pages if I add on "Especially the lesbian ones." This place is becoming every trollbait and flamer's wet dream. White Knights, Templars, and Bloody Peasants!

Grandmaster McSkweeb can tell when to shut up and be on topic, and so can you!

Solid Snake 02-02-2013 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PyrosNine (Post 1223100)
I swear to god, all I would have to do to get a 20 page thread would be to start one off with an offhand "All mexicans are lazy" joke and watch the shitstorm. An extra 20 pages if I add on "Especially the lesbian ones."

Or you could just
Maybe quite possibly
NOT attempt a racist or homophobic 'joke?'
Oh no wait
The "white knights" upon their noble steeds of basic courtesy and human decency
Sayin y'know maybe we shouldn't joke about that shit
We must be the problems, with our '20 pages' of condemnations of bigotry
WHY can't we just take a joke?????


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