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shiney 03-11-2015 10:12 PM

I have to lol a little bit too because if anything I don't think anyone here would ever argue I am a social justice warrior. I am someone who cares about basic human decency though and I've reached my maximum tolerance for people who mask their bigotry and suchlike by not being directly abrasive.

Amake 03-11-2015 10:30 PM

I was wondering when the last time was I saw anyone "asking a question about some issue" that seemed the least bit like someone trying to learn - rather than trying to get at some of those apparently toxic zealots - who was then called the scum of the earth. I know it did happen at some point, and I felt appropriately bad about it and resolved to try and show more good faith in the future, and I felt most of the forum seemed to learn from it as well. The risk of building ourselves an ideological ghetto, intolerant of those trying to learn, has been a concern to me for some time, and so I'm forced to ask: When did anything like what Toast describes actually happen last? Got any links? I'm not planning to have any rethreaded/revisionistic arguments, I just want to see what I've apparently missed and see what I might learn from it.

Kim 03-11-2015 10:36 PM

Yeah I came back. Go ahead and lol if you wanna. Matt admitted fault so IDC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Re$ha (Post 1250574)
Just, you know, so we all remember:
Out and out unashamed bigotry. Not asking for information, not making a mistake. Right up in your face bigotry.

Maybe we all misunderstood and he was just a pure confused soul asking if it was wrong for him to be "xenophobic" against black people "especially in groups".

shiney 03-11-2015 10:51 PM

Worst quitter ever.

You suck at quitting, except for when you quit quitting.

Kim 03-11-2015 11:09 PM

I could get better at quitting but I'd have to get better at holding grudges first. That's what's really holding me back.

rpgdemon 03-11-2015 11:19 PM

Nah, Kim is the best quitter there is. She's quit, like, way more than YOU have.

shiney 03-11-2015 11:23 PM

The only thing she's ever quit was quitting.

Though I guess that's happened like 5 times too.

Kim 03-11-2015 11:43 PM

;-;

Solid Snake 03-11-2015 11:57 PM

<3
 
I choose instead to believe that Kim couldn't bear the thought of leaving me, and that's what compelled her to come back to this shithole.

Nique 03-12-2015 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amake (Post 1250578)
I was wondering when the last time was I saw anyone "asking a question about some issue" that seemed the least bit like someone trying to learn - rather than trying to get at some of those apparently toxic zealots - who was then called the scum of the earth. I know it did happen at some point, and I felt appropriately bad about it and resolved to try and show more good faith in the future, and I felt most of the forum seemed to learn from it as well. The risk of building ourselves an ideological ghetto, intolerant of those trying to learn, has been a concern to me for some time, and so I'm forced to ask: When did anything like what Toast describes actually happen last? Got any links? I'm not planning to have any rethreaded/revisionistic arguments, I just want to see what I've apparently missed and see what I might learn from it.

There have been genreal apologies issued from users who admitted that they came in too hot in various discussions while still usually making the point that the actual message being discussed and not their delivery of it is of primary importance.

For some folks, this isn't enough.

Also, I think I should mention that I appreciated Gregness sticking around for this chat, even though there were some strong disagreements, rather than just coming in to take one-off pot-shots at Kim for quitting or make word vomit about NPF "zealots". Seriously folks, if you have time to come in and post, you can also take the time to use some active listening skills by actually participating in the discussion.

---------- Post added at 09:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 PM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 1250586)
I choose instead to believe that Kim couldn't bear the thought of leaving me, and that's what compelled her to come back to this shithole.

Get a room!


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