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BMHadoken 06-26-2004 02:34 PM

Well thats nice to know.

Anyways, I was thinking about the whole Brood-Human thing. Why not let Humans have a discount at all the skills? Its conceivable flavor-wise since they can't specialize in strength or agility that they'd turn their efforts towards becoming the best swordsman or pilot...

Just a thought, so that regular old joes aren't so totally boned.

GatoFiero 06-26-2004 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krylo
125% Power, Defense, and Agility.

So my power ups to 10, defense ups to 9 (or 8.75), and agility ups to 20...with my stats as they exist right now.

Ok, I’m sure you've considered this before but I’ll bring it up. Have you considered making our starting stats permanent? We would only be allowed to up our HP, AP, Skills and Abilities. Our damage would increased through better equipment and ups in skill.

Ah yea, that's right. You want it based on BoF and stats increase in BoF. Meh, it was just a thought.

IHateMakingNames 06-27-2004 12:23 AM

Permanent stats are a horrible idea... I need more WIL and HP.

So, when will we begin testing anyway?

Krylo 06-27-2004 12:26 AM

As soon as all you idio... I mean... wonderful people get around to messaging me on AIM/telling me when a good time would be.

As I said, I don't want to do it here because Rai is trying to make a more serious RP area, and keep out kind of silly things. And, well, I'm not going to put a lot of work into something that will probably only last a few days (if that) for me to get everything figured out.

IHateMakingNames 06-27-2004 12:28 AM

If you haven't figured it out, I'm good to go at any time, though I am gradually becoming more nocturnal.

Hlorridi 06-27-2004 12:39 AM

Yeah, I'm up pretty much up most of the night now. So like I said, anytime past 10:00 pm EST time is perfect for me if it's necessary for all to be present at the same time. I may be able to do earlier, but my job keeps most afternoons tied up.

IHateMakingNames 06-27-2004 12:44 AM

I'm considering switching my guy's weapon (Because Unarmed is boring).

So, more questions.

What is melee exactly?

How does a chain work? A chain can attack from several lengths, so would hit and damage vary depending on how it was being used?

What's blunt?

Edit - How does a plasma blade work? I see it as either a light saber, or a blunt sword that lets off a light saber type thing.

BMHadoken 06-27-2004 09:11 AM

I am good to go from 10:00 PM EST onward, unless my job runs late, but I'll let you guys know in advance, so don't point at me for holding this up...

Are we still waiting for Dante and FZ?

GatoFiero 06-27-2004 12:55 PM

As i said before, i'm good to go anytime.

lazy man 06-27-2004 01:48 PM

I'm also free about any time, but I'm going away next week, so not then.

Krylo 06-27-2004 02:29 PM

IHMN: Melee is anything that's not a weapon but is used as such. Basically it's for things that don't really fall into the other categories but are going to end up being used anyway. Like, say a chair or a broken bottle. You MIGHT be able to argue chair as being blunt or the bottle as being dagger, but it's still significantly different attacking with either of those. As a brawler, you should probably have taken some points in that, or put some points into it with exp you get.

Yes.

Blunt is things like hammers, clubs, lead pipes, etc.

Plasma blade is a scientifically sound lightsaber, basically. Magnetically charged plasma is shot out from it, but a magnetic pull exists within the hilt which pulls it back down into the hilt, creating a blade out of a plasma loop.

Everyone else, I still need messages from you all to get your names (except lazy and gato). If you didn't get my AIM name, say so here before that, and I'll pm it to you.

Get me tonight at 10 pm EST on AIM and we'll start this. In the meantime I'll make a human, ox, monkey, and frog character.

...I was just too lazy to do the stat modifiers for monkeys and frogs before, but I'll get them now. There's no such thing as too many races, after all.

IHateMakingNames 06-27-2004 03:39 PM

While it would be fun to smash chairs against peoples heads, if there are no chairs nearby, my guy is screwed.

Krylo 06-27-2004 04:15 PM

IHMN: Well, melee isn't just chairs. Garbage can lids, tire irons (although you could probably use one of those with blunt as well), steering wheels... basically anything you can hold in your hand and use to smack someone with, that isn't NORMALLY considered a weapon.

BM: I never look at profiles.

IHateMakingNames 06-27-2004 04:24 PM

I realized that melee was more then just chairs, but I was pointing out that there is a chance that a weapon may not be available, my guy's chance of hitting is bad. But there will most likely always be something that can be used as a weapon around, so I'm switching from Unarmed to Melee.

But Melee seems like a skill that if you have points in that, you would have some points in something else.

Edit - Also, switch his weapon to none.

Krylo 06-27-2004 05:51 PM

A couple of things that I don't think I mentioned. Plasma blades are like guns in their damage. It's based on the weapon, not the power of the user. Why? Because they're immaterial. It's the heat of the blade that hurts, so swinging it harder wouldn't do anything. Oh, and they're all heat based.

Also: Done IHMN.

Also 2: I'll post my characters up here in a second, just so you all can see them. I'm done with two.

Also 3: I've decided humans don't need anything to make people chose them. The math for making humans/brood is a TON easier. That's all they need.

IHateMakingNames 06-27-2004 06:39 PM

How are other races so hard to make? Just do it like a human, then either multiply or divide when your done. It might take a couple of trail and errors if the outcome is much more then you expected, but overall it's not that much harder.

GatoFiero 06-27-2004 06:51 PM

http://www.pornolize.com/pornolize4?...Fedn-t003.html

check this out, trust me, it is a christian site so how bad can it be?

Krylo 06-27-2004 07:08 PM

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It's just annoying the first time. After making my first non-human, the rest went about 10 times faster.

Anyway, here's my characters.

Krylo-

Name: Derek
Race: Human
Race Power: The alpha and the omega. The beginning and the end.
Class: Gun Slinger
Desc: unimportant
Bio: unimportant

Stats

HP: 10
AP: 10
POW: 5
DEF: 9
AGI: 12
INT: 7
COM: 14
WIL: 8
GUT: 1

Weapon: Stunblast Pistol (Pow 20, Hit 45)
Armor: Energy absorbing vest (ED 4 PD 1)
Shield: None
Helmet: None
Accessory 1: Laser Sight (Hit +5 on pistol)
Accessory 2: None.

Attack Score: 20
Physical Defense: (Defense score + PD of armor) 10
Energy Defense: (Defense [or will, if magic] score + ED of armor) 13/12

Skills

Dodge: 9
Gun: 6
Melee: 3

Spells:

Abilities:

Gambit - 0

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Name: Darius
Race: Ox
Race Power: Being Big. Also Strong.
Class: Maker of Squishies.
Desc: Unimportant.
Bio: Unimportant.

Stats

HP: 60
AP: 10
POW: 17
DEF: 17
AGI: 9
INT: 5
COM: 5
WIL: 10
GUT: 1



Weapon: Aluminum Hammer (Pow 5)
Armor: None
Shield: Energy Dispersal Wrist Shield Unit (PD 0, ED 5)
Helmet: None
Accessory 1: None
Accessory 2: None

Attack Score: 22
Physical Defense: (Defense score + PD of armor) 17
Energy Defense: (Defense [or will, if magic] score + ED of armor) 22/15

Skills

Blunt: 5
Ship Turrets: 6
Heavy Weapons: 3 (from Ship Turrets)
Melee: 3
Intimidation: 3


Spells:

Abilities:

Kick - 2

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Name: Milton
Race: Mole
Race Power: Digging Holes.
Class: Digger.
Desc: Unimportant.
Bio: Unimportant.

Stats

HP: 25 (25)
AP: 10
POW: 12 (63) +2 = 14
DEF: 9 (60)
AGI: 12 (63)
INT: 5
COM: 9 (45)
WIL: 9 (60)
GUT: 1

Weapon: Aluminum Claw (Pow 5)
Armor: Dirty Cloths (PD 2 ED 2)
Shield: None
Helmet: Dirty Turban (PD 2)
Accessory 1: Power Brace (Pow 1)
Accessory 2: Power Brace (Pow 1)

Attack Score (pow + weapon pow): 19
Physical Defense: (Defense score + PD of armor) 13
Energy Defense: (Defense [or will, if magic] score + ED of armor) 11/11

Skills

Unarmed: 3 (6)
Melee: 1 (1)
Ground Vehicles: 5 (15)
Mechanic: 1 (1)
Medicine: 3 (6)

Spells:

Abilities

Multi-Strike: 2
Backhand: 0
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Name: Fred
Race: Frog
Race Power: Can jump farther than most.
Class: Priestess
Desc: Unimportant
Bio: Unimportant

Stats

HP: 20
AP: 70
POW: 5
DEF: 14
AGI: 5
INT: 10
COM: 8
WIL: 8 +1=9
GUT: 1

Weapon: Walking Staff (Pow 5)
Armor: Priest Clothes (PD 1, ED 1)
Shield: None
Helmet: None
Accessory 1: Holy Medallion (Healing Spells +5%)
Accessory 2: Blessed Ring (+1 Wil)

Attack Score: 10
Physical Defense: (Defense score + PD of armor) 15
Energy Defense: (Defense [or will, if magic] score + ED of armor) 15/9

Skills:

Blunt: 4
Medicine: 5
Athletics: 1
Dodge: 1

Spells

Might: 10
Heal: 10
Protect: 8
Transfer: 2+AP transferred
Speed: 8

Abilities
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Name: George
Race: Monkey
Race Power: None.
Class: Thief
Desc: Unimportant
Bio: Unimportant

Stats 323

HP: 25 (25)
AP: 10
POW: 9 (60)
DEF: 7 (26)
AGI: 15 (78)
INT: 7 (26)
COM: 9 (45)
WIL: 8 (63)
GUT: 1

Weapon: Dagger (Pow 5)
Armor: Energy absorbing vest (ED 4 PD 1)
Shield: Metal bracers (PD 2)
Helmet: Headband (PD 1 ED 1)
Accessory 1: Lockpick set (Locks +2)
Accessory 2: None

Attack Score: 14
Physical Defense: (Defense score + PD of armor) 11
Energy Defense: (Defense [or will, if magic] score + ED of armor) 12/13

Skills:

Dagger: 5
Locks: 5+2=7
Thievery: 5
Stealth: 9
Dodging: 4
Electronics: 2

Spells:

Abilities:




Also, I'm attaching the character's file. I changed a few weapons around (Lazy lost 5 from his weapon's power, Hllorri... whatever his name is spelt, gained some hit on his, little things like that). I also wrote down the AP cost of abilities next to them, etc.

IHateMakingNames 06-27-2004 07:17 PM

You forgot to add Drain (20 EXP, 5 AP) to BM's character.

Also, what are the modifers for Frogs and Monkies?

Krylo 06-27-2004 08:38 PM

I added them to the main file, which I just uploaded... but here they are here, as well.

Monkey People pay half as much for agility and 1.5 times as much for WIL.

Frog People Pay 1.5 times as much for agility and half as much for defense and they can jump real far.

Repost: It's about 10 minutes till 10 EST. About time that you people should start sending me messages on AIM so that we can get this thing started. Only person I see signed on right now is Lazy.

Forever Zero 06-27-2004 11:46 PM

Hey, I'm back on. I didn't have access to my computer on the weekend is why I haven't signed up yet.

I see that a LOT has been said in my absence, so my question is, have the Humans/rules changed any? If they haven't, then I'll get about making my character, and submit him tomarrow.

IHateMakingNames 06-27-2004 11:47 PM

We've already tested the battle system, and the space ship fighting (Sorta...)

lazy man 06-27-2004 11:47 PM

Um, we're all on this big, pointless chat session right now, so I'll see if someone can get you in there.

Forever Zero 06-27-2004 11:49 PM

1. I'll need to log on first...

2. Hmm, I don't have a character yet, so should I just observe what is going on?

IHateMakingNames 06-27-2004 11:50 PM

Be Derek, the human guy.

Forever Zero 06-27-2004 11:59 PM

Alright, slowly catching up...

Krylo 06-28-2004 12:21 PM

Things I learned last night:

1: Seduction shouldn't allow for making you hit yourself in the face. Granted, Gadget deserved it, but still.

2: Seduction needs to be toned down so far as how long it lasts. Thus, it will be re-rolled every time a command is given past the first, with the effective will of the seducee being doubled while the seductive powers of the seducer remain the same. (Before there was a will bonus every order, but not as much of one... and I didn't bother with it after Ren seduced the kaiser dragon, because things were just too insane for rolls anyway.)

3: The Kaiser Dragon shall never be under IHMN's control. Ever.

4: Spells need to be powered up slightly. It probably won't be noticeable at early levels, but you'll notice it later. They were doing 100% int. They're going to be doing 125% int. (The weak ones).

5: Prison spells need to be easier to resist.

6: Ninja-pirates make shitty space captains if they can be defeated by a fish.


Sign-up for real RP will be up tonight or tomorrow (unless it doesn't get up tonight and I'm too tired after work tomorrow). You have until then to suggest other changes.

One thing though: I'm not toning down guns.

They're suppose to be slightly over-powered at lower levels. They're guns for godsake! You people will outstrip the weaker guns with experience, though.

Also, something that hasn't come up yet: Some weapons will have weight ratings which will slow you down if your power isn't high enough. You also may not be able to lift them at all.

BMHadoken 06-28-2004 02:06 PM

Will the real RP be stat and roll based or just forum RPing...

Krylo 06-28-2004 02:39 PM

It'll be like the stat RPs FZ has done, or the one that Jad is running. Battles and whether you succeed at certain things will be stats and rolls, otherwise everything is just RP.

For instance, Natsuki tries to seduce you, if she succeeds, I pm you get to act out the seduction... until it breaks, at which point I pm you but not her. I don't pm her (him?) for the succeed either... gato just has to figure it out by your going along with things.

Etc. etc.

So... not QUITE as far from the forum rp as the play testing, where I just filled out whether or not things hit, but still stat based.

IHateMakingNames 06-28-2004 02:50 PM

I don't like that third thing you learned.

GatoFiero 06-28-2004 03:01 PM

Meh, i don't care if seduction has been weakened, my character can still kick some ass.

Forever Zero 06-28-2004 03:31 PM

And hopefully the Forum RP will be a litte more coherent as well...

And I think the thrid thing was a perfectly valid deduction.

Now, as to my question... Where is a copy of the rules again? I need it to make my own character...

Krylo 06-28-2004 03:36 PM

Beginning of this thread, but that file will be updated a bit for the actual RP... thus, the first post of the sign-up thread. When I make it. I guess you COULD make a character from that, but it'd mostly be just for practice.

I'm also dropping base stats down to 1, and increasing starting points... so if you want you can make a character that can't lift a pistol (or so ugly that people with weak stomachs vomit when they see you)... although I wouldn't recommend it.

Demon with a Glass Hand 06-28-2004 08:06 PM

Something that I learned last night:

Insanity is much more enjoyable en masse et poste haste.

That, and anything worth doing is worth doing ... (wait for it) ...

With Style!

(I'll make my own character for the forum rp, Krylo. Methinks an Ox isn't really in my style of Rping ...)

Forever Zero 06-28-2004 08:16 PM

How did I not see that coming...

And I think another get together to have another AIM round of the game (Once it is edited and fixed) could be pretty fun. It has working rules, and as soon as we had one serious game, it would break down into total insanity again...

Demon with a Glass Hand 06-28-2004 08:19 PM

I agree with the second AIM game, but only if we could get things to be less insane.

That would be a little hard to do considering the volume of insanity we have here in this group already ...

But we should give it a shot nonetheless.

IHateMakingNames 06-28-2004 08:21 PM

There would be less idioticy. Before it was only a test and only tempt characters, and even if we died we knew we would come back. If it's our actual characters, people won't want to die.

Krylo 06-28-2004 08:24 PM

Might be fun. Although, more games or not, we should DEFINATELY get together on AIM again. The blathering was fun.

My AIM crashed and I didn't bother getting back on... but where else can one discuss the merits of orgasming cherry or apple pie?

IHateMakingNames 06-28-2004 08:27 PM

Would you actually roll for vomiting if a person with a COM of one (Especially a fish, or an uglier sub-species of dog)?

And yeah, that was an intresting ability...

Forever Zero 06-28-2004 08:27 PM

Damn, I should have stayed on longer... How much longer did the insanity last?

Demon with a Glass Hand 06-28-2004 08:28 PM

This time I will have dinner made and consumed well before we get on.

I'll tinker around with a character tonight, however, I'm not really going to promise anything since (sorry Mr. Portacosavich) the 'create a character' document isn't edited for reading purposes.

Squishy Cheeks 06-28-2004 08:29 PM

Krylo, what you do in your kitchen is your business, and should remain that way.

Krylo 06-28-2004 08:32 PM

If someone had low defense (in replace of stamina), or willpower I might, IHMN.

Also, FZ: According to Celes it lasted until 9 am. I'd assume that was her time. I was gone long before that. Around 2 or 3 ish my time. I don't remember times too well.

IHateMakingNames 06-28-2004 08:33 PM

You should probably make the sign up thread now, because this is over the page limit, and I want to know how many points we have so I can start my character.

GatoFiero 06-28-2004 09:19 PM

Great, so i gotta re-make my character again?

Krylo 06-28-2004 09:27 PM

Well... you might get to put some more points in, but other than that... no. I'll tell you how many when I get the start up sheet up... I've been being lazy, guess I'll get to work.

shiney 06-29-2004 08:06 AM

Post limit.


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