Video Games Are Still Considered Art
 

[Quote=Harry Gregson-Williams]Games are just as important to art as any other medium.[/URL]
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There. A famous music composer for film media has said it.

http://www.allrpg.com/editorials/gamesasart1.php3

http://www.allrpg.com/editorials/gamesasart2.php3

I said it months ago! WOO!

Except no English teachers would accept you as a source for their students' research papers.

Well maybe they should. There.

Why wouldnt they? i figure Kefka could be used as any other editorialist, or even as an interview.

Well, according to my English professor, Kefka writes for a small-time website and doesn't have many credientials as an art expert, not to mention the site he writes for is a gaming site. Harry-Gregson Williams, however, is a well-established music composer who had made music for movies, both of which are already established as forms of art, so that gives him more credit.

Hell, I've only had one English teacher who would even accept a research paper on how videogames are art without laughing.

Whether or not videogames are an 'established' form of art already is really based on your own thoughts on the subject and semantics.

Yes, he's a famous music composer who makes what some would call art. Does that make him know a THING about videogames? No.

Anyways, my original point was not that my articles would be accepted in a research paper anyways. It was this: Big whoop. Some guy said games are art. So did I. So have thousands of people in the past few years. One famous composer saying so, while it might be a nice step forward, is not going to get this accepted. Yet.

Edit: Heck, even going over that article again, as it says at the top, Kojima was announced no. 73 in Newsweek's Most Influential people. Kojima being an actual GAME-MAKER who has been spreading the games as art idea would, in my opinion, be a much more important step forward in the acceptance of games as art. One of the major news weeklies announced him as one of the most influential people of the year, after all.

Again from the article, Williams said that THE LAST GAME HE PLAYED WAS PONG. This would, in most cases, completely knock of any credibility he had in the area of discussing what videogames are and are not. Some might say you don't need to PLAY videogames to understand that they are art, that just watching them is enough. I say: that's crazy. Because the PLAY is part of the art.

My original point is this: Whether Harry-Gregson Williams knows a thing about video games is irrelevant; it's what he knows about art. When trying to persuade an audience that video games should be accepted as art, here's how the process of writing a paper goes.

Student's paper reads: "[Kefka's name here] of allrpg.com says video games are art because [insert reason here]"
Teacher goes to allrpg.com, finds it's a video game site, discredits it immediately.

As opposed to:
Student's paper reads: "Harry-Gregson William, a composer of numerous music scores for numerous movies, says video games are art."
Teacher knows who Harry-Gregson William is(or if not, does research, and finds him), knows(or finds) that Harry-Gregson William is a compoer of music, teacher knows music is accepted as a form of art(and if not, shouldn't be teaching), and for an artist to say video games are art, that earns more credit.

See the two differences? You can know video games like the back of your hand, but your opinion on if they're art or not doesn't matter, because you are a gamer, not an artist. But, for an artist to say video games are art, then it become more credible, because artists are artists.

And just because the last game he played was pong doesn't mean shit. The last game I played also was Pong, three minutes ago. Big deal.

Maybe I should open up a thread about how to write research papers.

That runs dangerously close to Argumentum ad verecundiam. For example, while a physicist is a scientist, that alone wouldn’t lend his arguments on neurochemistry any weight. Besides, as my copy of Psychology notes:

"We do not accept anything on authority. It doesn't matter who says that something is or isn't true; what matters is the evidence - the facts and logic upon which the ideas are based, which are open for evaluation by any thinking person." -Dr. Peter Grey.

Thank you, Priest.

And Otaku: I AM an artist actually, and take much offense to you saying otherwise.

Also: yes, he could've played Pong three minutes ago like you, but read it again. He's saying, quite simply, that he is NOT a gameplayer.