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Zephie 07-25-2004 07:03 PM

Dragoncast - Inny Doujinshi Project (4)
 
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I was waiting for dg to post a new thread, since the last one got closed... but I'll just go ahead and make one m'self. (*cowers* No! Don't hit me! NOT WITH THAT?!)

*ahem* Right. On with the posting.

I finally drew concept art for the mole demon. I started out knowing he was gonna be ugly, and well... he is. =P

I guess my official title should be "Concept Artist/Support Writer/Webgraphics Artist/Gopher". O_o

I guess Jeffe'll post more info. about what we were talking about yesterday (or day before?) sometime soon. Or not. I dunno... >_>

dragonglove 07-26-2004 09:13 PM

I realize I've been... fuzzy... on a few things, especially recently. This includes what I'm actually looking for in certain pieces of art. I'll be posting about that more later, but right now, I want to talk about why I've been that way.

I moved to the my current location in June. At the end of August, I'll be moving again for college. I'll be helping my parents move to their new house in early august. I just sent in my loan for college today, money was due june 20th. I don't know where I'm living, apartment wise. My birthday's coming up. I'm trying to plan a trip back home in the midst of all this.

I don't know where to call home anymore. It sure as hell isn't here, but it's not quite KC anymore. I haven't moved to WA yet, so it's not there. I have no home.

I guess that's my problem. I hope you guys understand. I'll be looking into specifics and details on Raine and the rest of the characters in the near future. I may have to postpone the release date, or at least the third episode script. Also, I want to move to the www.dragoncaster.com forums sometime soon. We've bugged the nice people here long enough.

Thanks for sticking with it, and me.

Edit: I seem to be having some difficulty with using FFXI and MSN at the same time. Sorry if I appear online when I'm not.

Zephie 07-27-2004 04:36 PM

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Definitely. <3

I'm already all over it. ^_^

Edit: So it's rough... what do you want from me?! I use primitive tools and methods... ._.

*ahem* Anyway... I kinda like it, myself. ^-^

dragonglove 07-27-2004 06:01 PM

Grr, I have a whole post written and accidently close the window.

I like it Zeph, what program are you using? If you are using something professional, you need to wokr on layers to darken and resize Raine. Also, we need a better font. I'll see what I can come up with. If anyone is good at "drawing" words, see if you can make something cool. Lastly, it needs some more color. I'll come up with the colors shortly.

For me, my to do list:
Colors for main characters
Font for banner
Better physical descriptions of characters
Simple changes to original design of Tychael
Put together full character list

If anyone knows of anything else I forgot, or you want me to do, please let me know.

And also, if Raine doesn't look like that in the final version, I'm going to be pissed. That is not only what I originally imagined, but it's also perfect for the comic.

Zephie 07-27-2004 06:07 PM

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I am using layers. O_o

I'm on Paintshop Pro 7. I can work on darkening things up a bit, but that might be the best I can do.

• Fonts? Suggest some to me. I have some bloody, evilish looking ones, but not much in the way of Old English, which is what I originally went for.
• Colors? If someone's gonna start coloring their pics, then please make the background an outlandish color, like pink or a pinkish red (rgb 255, 192, 192). It helps so much to be able to paste using a transparent color than trying to erase and use color replace, which is what I do (and which is why they come up looking pixelated. I really know of no other to do this, sorry).

Also, dg, please get back to me about the sorceress(es). :P If I shouldn't put more thought into developing my idea of her character, I need to know.

EDIT: Here's a sample palette of fonts I just found. Input plz?

Zephie 07-27-2004 10:28 PM

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Yeth. DG mentioned to me earlier that I basically hit Zatochi spot-on, but that he needed a more human head, and perhaps a more correct propotioning. I drew him that way on purpose, but I guess he wants it more "proper". He didn't come out and say that outright, so I'm just implying. ^^;

Oh, and the revised banner (sort of):

I know "Dragoncast" is missing. We still haven't decided on a font.

dragonglove 07-29-2004 08:00 PM

http://www.dragoncaster.com/art.html

Got a bit of art work done, but it's not all finished yet. I still need to get ahold of Monch one more time. These are the art references for our characters. However, a few changes need to be made to each. Here goes.

Tychael
1. The top picture is perfect. No changes there.
2. The faces are good for the expressions, but there are too many lines for the hair. It should be a bit more solid like the above picture.
3. Good for pictures from the back. The eyebrows are of particular note. A great representation of the detail I want on the face.
More to be added when I get ahold of monch.

Raine
1. The ponytail is perhaps a bit too long and still need to get more solid hair, however Raine can have more lines than Tychael. I like the idea of a darker color eyes than Tychael also. Although we can't see them, the wings are pretty good, and I'll comment more on those later. I'm going to need some more time with the skirt/dress and the boots. It's not quite right yet, but I'm not sure what is. The arm things need to be a bit shorter and less baggy. I'm going to run some ideas tonight on how they tie near the shoulder.
2. The top two expressions don't quite work. They're good, but they aren't quite Raine. The bottom one works well, and also shows motion of the ponytail.
3. The second "face" picture (there are two) show more of the dark eyes feature, as well as how I want the nose to appear. I want to point out the ribbon. I want to accent that as a very important part of her character. We might even be able to take it a step further; what if she didn't have it in the at least the first scene, but obtained it no later than the end of the third episode? Just a thought.
4. Changes need to be made to the good parts of the above pictures: the eyes, ponytail, and bangs. The belt and collar need to go. Otherwise, everything I said about the earlier that I need to work on applies: Dress/skirt, boots and so on. Oh, her build (bust, breasts, gigglies, whatever you want to call them) are just about right.

Demons
1. The Zatochi picture is a very good shot at his core appearence. He needs to have the muscular build of a very strong human. His feet and hands are perfect, they need to be capable of tearing apart stone if Zatochi desires. I want him to have the head of a human. I need a sgraggly beard, completely unkept. Like the rest of his body, he needs to be "fuzzy". At the face, this can be interpreted as hairy, however a slight case of balding would be funny. His eyebrows need to be huge and dark, perhaps even a unibrow. His nose needs to be a stretch away from his face (don't ask me how to play that off, but a large, perhaps animal-like nose is needed).
2. Zeph and I have decided to split our character ideas for the sorceress, out of which a new character has been created, aptly titled "The Egyptian". Not much to point out here. Let Zeph tell you about her.

I gotta eat now. While composing this post, I finally bought "The Art of Inuyasha". I'll post some of that later tonight. I'll also be editing this post as soon as I can send the rest of the pictures to Monch for postage.

Zephie 07-29-2004 08:20 PM

There's not much for me to say about my character. ^^ I guess since I seem to have a great deal of creative freedom with her (for now... >_>; ), I'll pick out an official name for her sometime soon and work on filling out her background/backstory/story.

As it is right now, we've got a way to get her introduced, though I don't know which episode it's in. If I do have freedom over her look, then her final design is pretty much what you can see from my other pic, just with some little extra flourishes on her dress, no big deal.

Obviously, I still need to find out where I stand on this character. x.x;

dragonglove 07-29-2004 08:26 PM

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As far as look Zeph, you have nigh complete control, just keep it in time period and accurate. As for plot, what we discussed earlier would work well, but beyond that, I'm not sure. I have a clear cut idea of the comic's progression, and if changes need to be made to a character to keep that progression going well, so be it.

And also, I've been thinking about an episode plot containing Khakoi, the original idea for the love interest. The background for the pheonix girl that CelesJessa came up with would fit pretty well in an episode, even though it didn't work as a love interest.

And I just realized I didn't put the link to the art page up in the last post. I'll put it there now.

Edit: RDS sent me a loosely scripted background for some characters (in the attachments). It's hard to say much about it other than I'll fit it in. It's really good. The wistle thing sounds a bit out there, and the three element brothers are too generic and come too close to the thunder brothers episode. However, if we play it off right, we'll have a really good set up for multiple episodes.

Zephie 07-29-2004 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dg
As far as look Zeph, you have nigh complete control, just keep it in time period and accurate.

Then consider her look finalized. ^^ Actually, she could probably do without the horns since she's not a demon any longer... but no biggie. ^_^

I like the Shun/Juu/Asuka idea verah much. =)

EDIT: Oh, I almost forgot: I think I have a name for her. Sati-Seth, meaning "Daughter of Seth". It should be pretty obvious why she chose that name. ^_^

And no, I'm not talking about her biological faugher. :D

EDIT EDIT: Nobody's told me anything on the fonts, btw. >: If I don't get some feedback, I'm'a go ahead and pick my own, and then when ya say something I'll be like "But you didn't TELL me which one you wanted, jackhat!"


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