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MasterOfMagic 07-28-2004 12:38 AM

He said that b/c Darth Vader was listed as a jedi. Which, when that title applies to him, he most certainly isn't.

And I, for one, would rather Lucas left the books alone. They are fine just as they are. I would like to see some games set in a time period after the movies. They have the Dark Forces(Jedi Knight) series, but I'd like to see some in the New Jedi Order time period. That would make my year.

More on topic: I don't see how the prequels ruin the series, as some people claim. they're okay. not as good as the originals, but nothing ever is.

As for changing the originals in the box set, THAT'S JUST F#!@ING WRONG!!! It was fine just the way it was.

Sithdarth 07-28-2004 12:52 AM

Well for one there are games in the New Jedi Order time period. Their called Jedi Knight, Jedi Knight 2, and Jedi Academy. That being said I don't see what so wrong with the prequels. I mean all of you that have complained seem to have sat through the whole thing. That means you were entertained enough not to turn it off or walk away. Thus they achieved their purpose. They might not have been great but at least they kept you in your seat. As for messing with the orignals, I agree thats just wrong.

MasterOfMagic 07-28-2004 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sithdarth
Well for one there are games in the New Jedi Order time period. Their called Jedi Knight, Jedi Knight 2, and Jedi Academy.

No no no. I'm talking Vong invasion. That book series. I mentioned the Jedi Knight series. And aren't Jedi Knight 2 and Jedi Academy the same game, or did I miss one? I will hurt myself for missing one.

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That being said I don't see what so wrong with the prequels. I mean all of you that have complained seem to have sat through the whole thing. That means you were entertained enough not to turn it off or walk away. Thus they achieved their purpose. They might not have been great but at least they kept you in your seat. As for messing with the orignals, I agree thats just wrong.
I agree w/ you on these two points. Two much whining, and too much screwing with the originals.

Peo 07-28-2004 02:06 AM

Yes, I believe most people complain that the prequal star wars movies were crap......because they compare them to the originals. Its my belief that if the first trilogy never came out, people would think that these movies were great, my opinion at least.

But, as the rest of you, yes, changing the originals that much is just messed up. Reminds me of that episode of south park,heh

EVILNess 07-28-2004 03:36 AM

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Bezo 07-28-2004 03:47 AM

On the plus side, the monkey Emperor is gone. And Jabba looks a lot better in A New Hope.

Not sure why they would put Hayden into Return Of The Jedi though.

I've seen a lot of prequel bashers here, so suffice it to say I'm not one of them. If it's got lightsabres and a John Williams score, it's Star Wars enough for me.

Peo 07-28-2004 03:55 AM

Ive seen prequel bashers everywhere, not just here, its like they are a new cult or something, they pray to a golden statue of Mark Hamill.

Otaku Son 07-28-2004 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterOfMagic
I mentioned the Jedi Knight series. And aren't Jedi Knight 2 and Jedi Academy the same game, or did I miss one? I will hurt myself for missing one.

No, they are not. First, when I type "Dark Forces trilogy," I'm including Dark Forces, Jedi Knight(/Mysteries of the Sith, as it's an expansion pack to JK), and Jedi Outcast(notice the subtitle to Jedi Knight is "Dark Forces 2," and the subtitle to Jedi Outcast is "Jedi Knight 2," thus sub-subtitled as "Dark Forces 3."), aka the "Kyle Katarn trilogy."

Jedi Academy, on the other hand, has Kyle Katarn in it, but as a NPC. And while it is the sequel to Jedi Outcast, it has no subtitle like "Jedi Outcast 2" or "Jedi Knight 3" or "Dark Forces 4." It's really like a single-player one-man-party MMORPG; you customize the features of your character, give them equipment, go on missions in a non-linear form, etc., just single-handidly instead of as a group.

I think they could pull the Dark Forces trilogy off because for Jedi Knight, they had live-action footage between stages, so they already have an actor and actress for Kyle and Jan(whom they based the models for both JK and JO off of), along with the whole cast of Jedi Knight for that matter. Unless some people like, died, or something.

How that all ties in to this new-age dang-nab confounded "original trilogy SE remade on DVD" discussion is your call. But am I the only one annoyed by the three different parts of that title? "Original trilogy"..."SE"..."remade"?

MasterOfMagic 07-28-2004 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bezo
On the plus side, the monkey Emperor is gone. And Jabba looks a lot better in A New Hope.

Not sure why they would put Hayden into Return Of The Jedi though.

You miss the point Bezo. Sure it might look better (not including the Hayden thing), but we don't care about that. They changed what many of us have come to love, it doesn't hold the same value anymore now that it has changed. Its really hard to put into words, I guess the best I can do is to say that its like the orginals have been violated.

Edit: Otaku, I know Dark Forces was where the Jedi Knight series came from. The Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy implies that it is JK2, they just replaced the 2 with Jedi Academy b/c it is more original that way.

Otaku Son 07-28-2004 04:02 AM

I just thought of something else. Did Lucas do anything different to the Indiana Jones trilogy when it was released to DVD? Hell no! So why mess up the Star Wars trilogy? Because that trilogy started in the middle of a saga and Indiana Jones started at the beginning? Psh! Look at all the "Young Indiana Jones" movies! In fact, they were even releasing "Eye of the Peacock" with the VHS trilogy for a while. Why didn't they take Harrison Ford's baby pictures and plaster them to the face of the actor who played young Indy at he start of Last Crusade?

Then again, who knows. Maybe Steven Speilberg is wearing the pants of that production, and George is just his bitch.

And Master, it may have been(which one, though?), but you asked the question in this thread, so I answered in this thread.


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