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Illuminatus 09-23-2004 10:55 AM

Cat Stevens Denied Access to US
 
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LONDON, England (CNN) -- The British recording artist Yusuf Islam returned to London Thursday saying he was "shocked and slightly amused" after U.S. officials determined he was on a terrorist watch list and was not allowed to enter the United States.

Islam, the peace activist and singer once known as Cat Stevens, said he was traveling to Nashville, Tennessee, with his daughter for a recording session when he was approached aboard the flight into Washington, D.C.

"Suddenly we were forced to land and suddenly I was being interrogated by all these FBI officers," Islam said at an impromptu press conference at London's Heathrow Airport.

"The whole thing is totally ridiculous. Everybody knows who I am, you know, I'm no secret figure. Everybody knows my campaigning for charity, for peace. And there's got to be a whole lot of explanations. Hopefully there will be that."

When asked if he was being victimized, he said "absolutely," then added, "but you know people make mistakes."

"I just hope they've made a big mistake."

Islam was taken off a United Air Lines flight from London to Washington on Tuesday and officially denied entry to the United States when U.S. authorities ordered the aircraft to land in Bangor, Maine.

He was taken to Boston and Washington before being sent back to London on another United flight from Dulles International Airport.

U.S. Muslim leaders say they want the government to explain why he was on a "watch list" meant to keep terrorists out of the country.

Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge accused Islam of having some unspecified relationship with terrorist activity.

"Celebrity or unknown, our job is to act on information that others have given us," Ridge said.

"And in this instance, there was some relationship between the name and the terrorists' activity with this individual's name being on that no-fly list, and appropriate action was taken."

Other officials said he was on the watch list because of reported associations and financial support for Muslim charities with terrorist connections. But they would not disclose the names of those charities, and Homeland Security spokesman Garrison Courtney told CNN only that "the intelligence community has come into possession of additional information that further heightens our concerns of Yusuf Islam."

The 56-year-old Islam changed his name after becoming a Muslim in the 1970s. Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said his organization wanted a better explanation for why the singer was denied entry into the country.

"We are getting a little tired of this kind of Kafkaesque treatment of people, where vague allegations are made and actions are taken against individuals and organizations," Hooper said.

He said American Muslim leaders "need to know where the allegations are coming from."

"I don't think we want to be in a situation where people are denounced by anonymous government officials and labeled as terrorists and that's it -- everybody says 'Okay, we don't need any more information.' We need more information," he said.

Ridge said the intelligence that put the singer's name on the list came from outside the United States, but he would not reveal the source.

He questioned why United allowed him onto the flight at all, but government sources said Islam's name was added to the watch list only recently and had been misspelled -- which could explain why airline employees overlooked it.

Aviation security adviser Jalal Haidar, an Arab-American Muslim, said Islam's inclusion on the watch list may have been a mistake -- but he said the watch list system will improve.

"Mistakes happen. There are lots of redundant names, and identity can be mistaken," he said.

"The system is not perfect here." Ridge called the singer "one of my favorite artists," and said his agency would take "a very, very close look" at the information that resulted in Islam being placed on the list.

But another U.S. official said the Department of Homeland Security is "extremely confident in the information," and said it was credible "without a doubt."

According to Islam's Web site, he is associated with three charities: Small Kindness for humanitarian relief; Islamia Schools' Trust for education; and Waqf al Birr Educational Trust for educational research and development and scientific and medical research.

As Cat Stevens, Islam had a string of hits in the 1960s and 1970s such as "Moon Shadow," "Peace Train," "Wild World" and "Morning Has Broken" before converting to Islam in the 1970s and changing his name.

He dropped out of the music business for more than a decade after converting to Islam, but returned to the studio periodically since the late 1990s. He condemned the September 11, 2001, al Qaeda attacks on New York and Washington, performing at a benefit concert to raise money for victims and donating a portion of the royalties from a career retrospective to a relief fund.

He also condemned the recent attack on a school in the southern Russian town of Beslan that killed more than 300 people, many of them children.

He was widely reported to have endorsed the late Iranian leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeni's 1989 decree calling for the death of British novelist Salman Rushdie after Khomeni said Rushdie's novel, "The Satanic Verses," was blasphemous.

But Islam has said his comments were taken out of context by a reporter, and that he opposed anyone "taking the law into their own hands."
What do you guys think?

ChaosMage 09-23-2004 11:47 AM

I think this is the most hilarious and dumbest thing ever. I certainly wonder whether this will affect either Bush or Kerry in some way, but more likely its just a fad, something that'll serve to remind people that theres some crazy stuff going on in Homeland Security, but won't be remembered specifically. I think its hilarious and dumb because he's a peace advocate not Osama bin Laden.

adamark 09-23-2004 12:31 PM

Add that to the list of crazy stuff that's happening this day in age..

Daecrist 09-23-2004 12:44 PM

In defense of the government, we don't know what they know and there could be a viable concern here that they can't talk about without risking an intelligence source.

In all likelihood it's just bureaucratic idiocy though. God bless homeland security.

Jagos 09-23-2004 05:21 PM

risking an intelligence source against a singer?

I highly doubt a list of names is gonna be sufficient in catching all the "terrorists" that could possibly hurt the US. Why not just lock everyone up now?

Jack's Smirking Revenge 09-23-2004 09:21 PM

Do you guys ever watch the news? He was placed on the list due to his many charitable contributions to muslim charities, some of which have terrorist ties.

That is why he is on the no-fly list. It is not because they think he is a terrorist. That's absurd. Instead, it is because he is indirectly funding terrorism with his charitable contributions.

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"The whole thing is totally ridiculous. Everybody knows who I am, you know, I'm no secret figure.
That's really funny, "Cat." I don't think nine out of 10 Americans knew who you were before this happened.

Illuminatus 09-23-2004 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack's Smirking Revenge
That's really funny, "Cat." I don't think nine out of 10 Americans knew who you were before this happened.

Most people older than the age of 35 knows who Cat Stevens is. And the charities he contributes to are listed on his website. As far as I can tell, none of them have direct links to terrorism.

Be nice to Cat Stevens man. He's a peace advocate, not a terrorist.

Sky Warrior Bob 09-24-2004 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack's Smirking Revenge
Do you guys ever watch the news? He was placed on the list due to his many charitable contributions to muslim charities, some of which have terrorist ties.

That's what's being said, but as a previous poster mentioned, at least according to the info that's posted on Cat's website, it doesn't seem to be the case. Given the number of times that the Terror Alert has gone on the increase, from information that is 2-3 years old, I'm not going to take Homeland Security's word on anything, as its shown itself to be far from precise, IMO. (I mean, didn't we just recently learn that Kennedy ended up on the list, after all?)

I won't be convinced otherwise until I actually see some specific ties, and not just vague hints.

As far as the news has characterized him of late, Cat seems to be more of a funky peacenik more than anything else. And I can see those in charge of the Terror lists not trusting that sort.

Sky Warrior Bob

Osterbaum 09-24-2004 05:57 AM

This hole thing is ridicolous. I mean really, he's a muslim who does charity+is a peace advocate! He must never fly again!

It's just stupid.

Jack's Smirking Revenge 09-24-2004 07:11 AM

Which is worse? Someone who directly funds terrorist organizations, or someone who knowingly makes contributions to charities, some of which have ties to terrorists, and who does not care?

Personally, I think the former is worse, but the second is awfully irresponsible. I have read on msnbc.com that he made contributions to Hamas in the past and was denied entry into Israel, back in 2000, because of that. I am not saying he is guilty, or that he is innocent. However, if the US has reason to believe he made contributions to charities that somehow made it's way to Hamas, Hezbollah, or whatever, why wouldn't they put him on a watch list? You would prefer they just toss aside this information, and intel like it, and just hope nothing bad happens?

As for him being a perfect little peacenik, that's hardly the case. He endorsed a death threat to a British author back in the late 80's, lol.

I do respect the man for supporting charities for 9-11 victims, but that does not make up for the naivety that he possibly has for believing all the charities he donates to have no ties to terrorist organizations.

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I'm not going to take Homeland Security's word on anything, as its shown itself to be far from precise, IMO. (I mean, didn't we just recently learn that Kennedy ended up on the list, after all?)
Ted Kennedy is a murderer, a drunk, and an irresponsible person, lol. I wouldn't want to fly with the man, either. =oP Aside from being a danger to the country in the Senate, he's also a danger to whoever he's around when drinking.


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