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MasterOfMagic 10-10-2004 07:40 PM

No, Knives scoffs at him for being soft hearted, and thus getting all of those scars. Vash heals much quicker than a normal human.

As for the memories thing, *shrug* I thought everything during and before was gone, except for some childhood memories.

IHateMakingNames 10-10-2004 07:43 PM

I remember Knives mentioning that Vash can't even heal himself yet. While Vash has above average healing, he is unable to cause a greater, mass healing (Like Knives being able to regenerate his legs, but Vash can't even get rid of scars).

Sesshoumaru 10-10-2004 08:29 PM

I was talking about how Knieves tricked those crew memebers before he set all the ships to crash.

Aerozord 10-10-2004 08:33 PM

Well I dont think Knives can heal his body normally. I remember Knives having his lower body inside a machine that I believe was healing him. That is just specualtion though. When he commented about regenerating scars I think he was pointing out his stupidity and that the regeration he was reffering to was the regeration that kept them from aging.

Legato agreed with Knives about humans being a drain on all other forms of life. Knives shot off Vash's arm at July. That arm was then surgerically attached to Legato. Some say it is what gave him his powers but I see no evidence of this. Especially since your arms and legs are simpley there to interact with your surroundings and possess no organs or sensory material (besides skin and nerves). I think Legato was simpley gifted and the arm was symbolic. It was to always remind him of his mission, "I will show the owner of this arm that living is true suffering". Also Vash was immune because he was a plant, or maybe Legato never had a reason two. I imagine both

The reason Vash kept Knives two guns is simple. If he had them that ment Knives didn't. They were too deadly to risk falling back into his hands.

In the anime Wolfwood was the new Chapel. So in that sence you could still call him that. But his mission was to keep Vash alive. Knives never wanted to kill his brother. In a sence they were the same. Vash wanted to show Knives that humans deserve to live while Knives wanted to show Vash that they should be exterminated.

synkr0nized 10-11-2004 01:19 AM

Hooray, someone who knows what's going on [ok, so, someone whom I think I can agree with on several points].

Legato is/was just a more advanced Human that joined Knives. The arm serves both as a symbol, as Aerozord suggests, and a connection to Vash. Recall that there were times when Legato mentioned getting feelings from Vash via the arm. I also think it helped the two establish the silent link when they talked.

MasterOfMagic 10-11-2004 03:23 PM

I just think too much. I need to stop all together. I'd enjoy things alot more. :D

Wait a minute.
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Originally Posted by Aerozord
The reason Vash kept Knives two guns is simple. If he had them that ment Knives didn't. They were too deadly to risk falling back into his hands.

He didn't have both guns did he? I'm pretty sure they each dived for one(Vash got the silver, Knives the black), and kept them after that little fight was over. And at the end, he didn't pick either up. He left them lying(sp?) there.

Outbounder 10-11-2004 03:53 PM

Vash got both guns when Knives brought them back. Vash shot Knives, and ran away after he scooped up the black gun.

MasterOfMagic 10-11-2004 04:32 PM

Hmm. Must have missed that little detail. *shrug*

chryos_the_forsaken 10-11-2004 05:13 PM

I'm not really sure about the whole arm thing, it was just a hunch. I do know that after vash shoots knives and carries him off, vash left both guns lying on the ground at the oasis. I don't believe in the anime either of them had powers other than simple plant-like abilities. Wolfwood is also symbolic too. everything about him is ironic or symbolic in some way, weather it be the cross used as a giant gun, or him being unclean at times, though he is a priest. I think the fact that he runs into vash and the gang so many times, sometimes of just coincidence, was a little suspicious anyway.

Aerozord 10-11-2004 05:44 PM

With the possible exception of first and second time Wolfwood ment to run into him.

Timeline of the two guns

Knives constructed the two guns on a SEEDs ship, Vash shoots Knives with his then grabs both. Many years later he faces Knives. Knives shoots his left arm which still held the gun. Knives takes the gun and Vash keeps his. Later they face off and for a short time Knives has both. At the end it is unclear what happened to the guns.


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