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IHateMakingNames 10-22-2004 04:13 PM

Wicked gun powder? All gun powder does is make an explosion to propel the bullet, it's not like you can really alter that much (Besides make it explode more, but then the gun will be destroyed).

And the major problem with Blue Magic is how will we decide what can be learned by a blue mage? As you have it, he can learn anything as long as he watches it (Which is much more like a mimic then a Blue Mage. A mimic who can use the mimiced moves even after the original user isn't using it. And mimics are cheap in the first place, so this enhanced one is even worse)

Tor 10-22-2004 04:19 PM

I think you have to kind of become one with them or live with them as gau from ff6 or something

Dragonsbane 10-22-2004 04:59 PM

I think Blue Mages have to actually get hit by (and survive) an attack in order to learn it. Even then, they might not do it as well as the original.

IHateMakingNames 10-22-2004 06:43 PM

I haven't played FFTA and I forgot how Final Fantasy V works, but in FFVII the first attack is "avoided" (The character spins around and takes no damage). In FFX the magic is absorbed through Lancet. In FFV I know you have to get hit, but I don't remember if you take damage, but their are some instant death spells so I would assume the first attack doesn't damage them.

And afterwords, the damage would be based on the characters magic (They may have copied it, but they are still casting it).

But, still, what would be skills/spell that a blue mage could copy, and what are skills/spells that a blue mage couldn't? Why can a blue mage learn Matra-Magic, but not Ice 2?

Zweihander 10-22-2004 07:26 PM

The general theme of Blue Mages is that they "absorb" the special abilites of monsters, and use Magic to subsitute for things that the Monsters have but humans don't, i.e. a Fire creature's flame... bladder... thingy. You get the picture. And Blue Mages wear Middle Eastern clothes, like turbans and such. Think Lawrence of Arabia.

Off course, depending on the setting and character, it could change a bit. Blue Mages are "unique" classes that don't have much canon about them, like a Wizard or Fighter class does. As we've seen, Blue Mages can go from absorbing energy into a materia(FF7) to eating the creature (FF9) to using parts of the monster to learn the skills (FF8) to it being race and technique specific (Ronso and its special usage of Lancet in FFX). I remember IHMN making a schitzo Rogue-like (from X-men, not the class!) Blue mage a while back. So you're pretty much free to do whatever sounds right in this setting; if you want it to be rather common and like an actual school of magic a la Black Magic, just go with the "Getting hit with and survive" thing. If, however, you want to be unique (VERY unique), then take a page from Quina or something and go with it. I recommend the former, since its kinda difficult to come up with something like that.

And no, I'm not joining, just adding my two cents about one of my favorite job classes of all time.

Outbounder 10-22-2004 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by IHateMakingNames
Outbounder, barrier spells would be white magic. Barrier spells don't aid in destroying stuff in any way, so it has no place in a black mages spell arsenal.

Damnation. Oh well. I can creatively used my offensive spells defensively I guess.

Inbred Chocobo 10-22-2004 10:20 PM

Well, since this is a FF1 like area, and there was no blue mage, I really don't think that the whole hit then learn thing is for me. But obviously, no one likes the other method i tried thinking up, so ill just go with hit and learn thing for now.

IHateMakingNames 10-22-2004 10:23 PM

Actually, the blue mage I had was BMHadoken's FF RP version of a blue mage. Half-demon with the ability to use other demon's powers by drinking their brain fluids. Also took on characteristics of the demons, depending on how much he drinks.

Also, from earlier discussion, Lancet is not a dragoon skill. It was a Blue Mage skill, but Khimari had some Dragoon in him (Jump).

Number - Player - Name - Race - Class

1. Outbounder - Trenius Kar - Human - Black Mage
2. black mage - ferret - Human* - Fighter
3. Armored Bishoujo - Tirana Fausterbird - Human - White Mage
4. ChesireThief - Francis de'Armo - Half-elf - Thief
5. Dragonsbane - Faladar Hazenon - Human - Dragoon
6. Ryu Kurai - Thurgis Karan - Dragonkin - Dragoon
**7. The Argent Lord - Jalathas - Human* - Dark Knight
8. videogamerz2000 - Felbf - Half elf-half drow - Dragoon
9. Solnac Relishan - Nighthawk Shadowfeather - Drow - Monk
10. Inbred Chocobo - Ramza - Human - Blue Mage
11. Tor - Jokke - Human - Thief
12. My Lead Airbag - Job Jobson - Human - Elementalist
13. IHateMakingNames - Cagon Waanzinniger - Human - Berserker

* None listed, so went with default race (Human)
** Character bio is sub-par, possibly not acceptable (And evil)

My Lead Airbag 10-22-2004 10:24 PM

How about if it leaves a scar, you can learn it? Then you won't get a huge variety of god-moddy powers, but you'll still have access to some goodies that can deal damage.

CheshireThief 10-22-2004 10:27 PM

If Mini-Fighter comes back, he has a Thimgle, a Human Red Mage.

Has it been long enough to say go ahead and start it?

Dragonsbane 10-22-2004 10:27 PM

That makes sense...but he'll probably end up having some rare condition that makes his skin scar easily. :rolleyes:

Either that, or he'll be a hideous freak by the end of the RP

Wait...what if he was wounded badly enough to get a scar, so he learns the ability, but then gets healed? Would he suddenly forget it?

IHateMakingNames 10-22-2004 10:29 PM

How about blue mages are just banned? It seems like it's more trouble then it's worth. Either he will be freakishly weak, or over powered.

And due to his quick change from chemist to blue mage to a different type of blue mage, my guess is Inbred wouldn't mind to much.

Astral Harmony 10-23-2004 11:44 AM

Geez, have you guys been chatting here all day? Imagine finding five more pages to this thread when I come into work on my day off to see how things're goin'. But if you really want me to start the RP since Mini-Fighter is MIA, then so be it. Now let me think of a name and I'll put Tirana in mortal peril. I'll edit this when I come up with something. Shouldn't take long.

There ya go, fellas. It should be fairly obvious which one it is. Just look for the thread started by me.


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