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Jeimuzu 11-01-2004 11:15 AM

What Europeans think of the American Election
 
I thought that perhaps european users would like to view their cases on the election this year.

I myself would vote for Kerry, but all politicians are as bad each other. Its just with Bush...gawds, I don't need to say a thing. Hell making fun of him isn't that hard these days, as he does it all by himself!

Anyways, hopefully the Bush's won't do what they did last election, and I mean cheating! Come on, the last election was the only American Election I heard of which the person with the least amount of votes became president!

Americans can post their views as well here about the election.

Viper Daimao 11-01-2004 12:20 PM

its so tiring when people bring up tired old falsehoods. There was no cheating, Bush won, and it wasnt that rare.

you're topic is a somewhat interesting topic however. As the Guardian actually attempted a similar discussion, however, they had their readers mail residents of Clark County Ohio, posting thousands of mailing addresses for voters in the Clark County Ohio for them to send letters urging them to vote for their prefered candidate (Kerry). Homepage here, and a news story about it here

A really bonehead thing to do though, trying to influence a foreign election. Read more about it at National Review Online or read some of their responses summed up by the title of the article Dear Limey Assholes (some responses are quite crude, others show more tact)

I also remember seeing a poll done world wide on which candidate they would vote for. The only countries that Bush was close on (getting close to or more than 50% of the vote) were Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, and Russia for some reason. I think there were a few other countries, but those were the big ones I remembered.

KefkaTaran 11-01-2004 12:58 PM

Viper: It's happened a couple times before (a president winning with the lesser amount of votes), but I'd still call it a fairly rare event.

Anyways, I don't see too much of a problem with citizens of foreign country giving their opinion on an election in the country that's most likely to affect them. Americans, for example, don't really care about who is Prime Minister of Britain because for the most part it barely affects us. Who the American president is, though, is quite likely to affect British folk, or so it seems.

WanderingActor 11-01-2004 03:09 PM

For some reason, Bush is not favored in foreign countries. For some reason, the democratic nominee always is. For what reason? I have opinions, but can't comprehend why republicans are globably looked down upon.

Osterbaum 11-01-2004 04:05 PM

The problem here is, that when you look at the point of view of a foreigner, like me, you look mostly at how the president conducts foreign policy, cause that affects us the most. I would vote for Kerry. Definetly. Why? Well I could give many reasons, but I'd rather not, cause I don't want this to get flamy or even close to it. And I'm not saying that Kerry is so much better than Bush. He is just mostly the...Lesser of two evils, sort of speak.

So my vote would go to Kerry.

Robot Jesus 11-01-2004 04:08 PM

The political spectrum is different outside the US.
This is the American spectrum

Left---------------center------------------------right
Nader-----Kerry-------------------------Bush

Canada (and presumably Europe)

Left----------------------center--------------Right

----------Nader-----------Kerry-------------------------------- ...Bush


The rest of the world sees bush as an insane right wing nut job, and Kerry(the most liberal democratic candidate in years) as a centerest.


This I know for certain how most of Canada views the election; I believe this is the predominating view but I’m not that sure.

KefkaTaran 11-01-2004 04:11 PM

I would actually probably put Nader as pretty damn far left also, but that's just me. Heh. Of course in Europe, aren't the terms conservative and liberal the exact opposite of how they are in America also? No wonder one outside the U.S. gets American politics.

DarthZeth 11-01-2004 04:12 PM

Kerry? center? Bush? right?

EDIT:

oh, ok, you changed the scale a bit

EDIT^2

dont forget the Kerry scale:

LEFT ------- CENTER ------ RIGHT
Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry

*snicker*

Osterbaum 11-01-2004 04:13 PM

What I don't get about your policies is...The two party system. It's a pretty stupid system if you ask me. But thats just me.

Also, I never though of Kerry as a left wing guy. Never. No matter how democrat he is.

KefkaTaran 11-01-2004 04:13 PM

I expected to hear that from DarthZeth. Let the rolling of eyes commence.

Could you explain more why Bush isn't to the far right and how exactly Kerry is to the far left? Even half as far as, say, Nader?


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