School Discipline
 

Sorry to change the generally politically atmosphere in this forum, but the page is called discussion, not politics. Anyway, here goes:

One trend I have seen lately is the increase in disciplinary crack-downs and rules in schools across the nation. I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but I've talked to many disgruntled students and teachers about this increase in the number of regulations imposed recently. It seems like the more rules a school administration impliments and enforces, the more disruption and retalliation within the student body it creates. Also, school morale decreases for obvious reasons. Has anyone else noticed?

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not me. but then again, I'm home-schooled and taking college pre-requisite courses.

I'm out of high school, and looking back, kids got away with WAY too much. I never did, personally. I never skipped a single class or broke the rules, really, except for a few minor, juvenile practical jokes. Other kids were getting away with murder, it seemed. Oh well.

Wow, you really do start a whole lot of threads.

Exactly my point, in fact. The more disciplinary measures are implemented, the more often students will break the rules, if only because it is the only way for them to stand up to this "injustice" (plus, it really POs the administrative people).

I lived in a town where a child threw an ice ball at a teacher (hardened until it was ice) and broke a bone, he got into NO trouble, as far as I am concerned discipline belongs in schools, you will obey the rules or not come as far as I am concerned. Maybe you will disagree but students should be disciplined, there IS a difference between discipline and abuse.

Well, actually, there weren't very strict rules at my school, not very many harsh punishments, and kids DID do bad stuff.

Maybe bad kids will do bad things no matter what system they are under.

I went to a school where, before we got a principle from some inner city school, we had no problems with anyone breaking the rules, but after this inner city principle became principle of our small rural school, he implemented the same disciplinary measures as he did for his old school. The student body, outraged at this unjustified punishment, responded by constantly breaking his rules over and over again. He in response kept on implementing more and more rules. It was an endless cycle.

Well, I'm no longer in public schools (thank god for graduation) so I don't know how bad it is or isn't now, but in my senior year it seemed like this whole commotion was started. Although ironically, it seemed as if every 'new rule' was jsut the old rule that was in place before, and the administration wanted us to know that there was a rule about something. Like the dress code, everyone was all outraged and overtly pissed of about thee 'new' dress code. It wasn't even new, the administration jsut saw a lot of girls dressing sluttily, and the guys wearing hteir pants around their knees (seriously, wtf is up with that?) and thought that they should let us know that they did have urles regarding this. IMO, however, I think there hsoudl be basic rules, but up a certain level of school, there should be less rules, but more punishment.

Let me explain, once they reach a certain age, they should know the difference between things they should do, or shouldn't do, what's right and what's wrong. The school's shouldn't need to tell their juniors who will be graduationg in a year that if you skip a class its bad. Yes they should punish them for wha htey do wrong, but I think that if they jsut assume(generally a bad thing to do but bear with me) he students know what's right it'll all work out. It's a fact, kids who want attention will break any rule they can find just so that they get acknowledged. The more rules there are, the more opportunities they have to get attention. If no on cares that they do the minor stuff (like skip class) chances are htey won't do it as much. I went to Plano East Senior High, and you could walk out of class when you wanted or go outside whenever (in fact often you had to, it was a multi-building school) and no one would care in the long run, someone wouldnt even acknowledge you ahd left, the teacher would jsut send an e mail to the admisions office and let them know, and at the end of the year, if you skipped a lot or walked out a lot, you were told you absence failed and wouldn't graduate. Less rules, more punishment, and the students will act more like adults and in the end, its more effective, IMO

Now that I'm in college, in my second year, the more I look back; the more I realise how utterly ridiculous the Irish School System was.

I didn't like it when I was in it; I hated it and wanted it to change, but thought there was *some* decent reason for it being that way.

It's a joke. A joke that's played out on people's lived until nobody's laughing anymore; ever.