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Gorefiend 11-14-2004 09:13 AM

What each candidate represented for you...
 
I know it's a little late for election threads, but what the hell, right.

Now, I am writing an editorial for my school newspaper about the elections. One of the things it touches is what each candidate represented, and some propaganda that each got. I was wondering what Bush and Kerry (and Nader, perhaps) represented for you, people who live in the states (and others too). Voter, not voter, citizen of the US, not citizen of the US, I don't care. What I'm hoping is for some opinions about the candidates. (I.E., Brian's opinion that Bush represents the medievely religious, and filthy rich) Also state who you support, even if it's blatantly obvious. Believe me, I SUCK at getting things right, and getting messages through.

I don't mind if an arguement ensues (hopefully not too much of an arguement. keep it civil, people!) but anyone who come in late, try to answer my question...
Thanks all.

Wetflame 11-14-2004 09:29 AM

"I voted for the candidate that didn't actively campaign against my civil rights" - Erin, artist of Venus Envy, a popular webcomic about lesbians, transsexuals and generally odd people.

TheZeroMan 11-18-2004 04:05 AM

"The Democrats are represented by pretentious Hollywood celebrites and aging hippies. The republicans by the absuredly rich, joe six pack bar guy, and the religious right. Gee its hard to figure out which party represents the America I hate more."
-Lewis Black

"Neither Party is mine, the jackass or the Elephant."
-Chuck D

The Tortured one 11-18-2004 11:24 AM

http://www.politopia.com/

if you want complete accuracy, this is a good test to take. each of the parties have their extremes, variations, stereotypes, take this quiz and see where you stand

here is a map where all the presidential candidates laid
http://www.politopia.com/poll_results.php
and this is a link to their exact scores
http://www.politopia.com/candidates.htm

I for one put an "E" on every single answer. guess that sums me up pretty well, no?

Gorefiend 11-18-2004 06:43 PM

nice website there, tortured one. However, Allow me to rephrase the question. It's not that these are bad, they just aren't what I was looking for.

Who did you feel each candidate represented the most? Or what? Did Kerry mean change to you? Or maybe Bush=Freedom for you? Or, perhaps Bush represented the rich to you? Which demographic did they represent, or which ideal did they represent?

I guess I should have phrased it like that to begin with. Thanks. I'll be sure to try to use these in my article, if you don't mind.

Oh, and, remember, post who you were voting for. Especially If your post is ambiguous. Thank you for your time.

icythaco 11-18-2004 06:55 PM

I'll take the cynical viewpoint: They both represented the rich, biased, selfish politician demographic, a rapidly growing social group that has owned a monopoly on our country for the last hundred years or so...

The Tortured one 11-18-2004 10:37 PM

to me, they represented power, but different power.
Bush represents large corporations that use the government to further their own agendas. They resent social welfare, but at the same time push for corporate welfare and government subsidies, which in my opinion is hypocrisy. It is shameful to me how people roll republicanism as capitalism, because Halliburton is IMO one of the grossest injustices ever to claim the title of capitalism.

Kerry on the other hand, represents Unions and social workers. They pretend to act in the interest of the little guy, but in reality these individuals are trampling on them. Small businesses every where are finding that they simply can not exist with all of the regulations emplaced on them supposedly there to protect them. Unions in my opinion is a government mandated coercive monopoly, and while I have no objection to their existence as perhaps a social group, I do have problems with them lobbying for their own interests.

Cobb and Nader are Eurosocialists, the way I see it, if someone really wants that kind of enviroment, they are free to leave and migrate to Canada or France.

Peroutka came in second for me due to his fiscal conservatism, but I find his social stances to be a little to theocratic for my tastes

Badnarik came in first, because he is the only candidate that wants to reduce government interference in every aspect of life, fiscally and socially.

Mental-Rectangle 11-19-2004 08:54 PM

Not a very interesting site. The map is just a bit propagandistic: the river arbitrarily associates totalitarianism with economic liberalism. And christ, it assumes everyone who wants nat'l healthcare wants social security. Idiots.

But then again... that may be what every libertarian here thinks.

So... I decided to make my own arbitrary map, with the river cutting the other two corners instead. I did it in two minutes, so excuse the suckage.
http://home.earthlink.net/~schuchfolk/propmap.jpg

Ravenhurst 11-20-2004 09:19 PM

Bush/Kerry: Same old crap
Anyone else: Didn't have a chance

Robot Jesus 11-21-2004 09:17 AM

Bush to me representing a combination of classical Randian flawed logic combined with elements of Mussolini style fascism with a frighteningly large dose of non robotic Jesus.

Kerry represented a moderate conservative that was mainly concerned with the status quo.


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