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We never decided on an arena, and certainly it would not be a wide open area. That goes against the idea of the two games all together, with those tiny little boss areas and screens.
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Well if it goes against both games, neither character has the advantage...
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They have disadvantages each, and that is why it should be a small, maybe two screen at most level, 1 screen high ceiling.
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And all X would have to do is copy her programming, and use her attacks against her.
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What if a basic platform kinda place. Dome like place. Verious ledges and platforms, very advatagy to them both.
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uh, regardless of the version of X, his powers are given to him by defeating enemies, hence he can have any/all of his robot master powers that he wants. heck, even then, X can just use masses of homing missles while running away. samus's missles simply don't home in SM
apart from that, samus can't use pretty much can't jump, lest she fall into an electric attack, and regardless of her ability to dodge, X can fire one shot to force her to jump, then tornado her back down, THEN fire elec at her. |
X would have to either kill her first, or touch her, and either way Samus is more than capable of keeping X away from her.
And where did Samus get a weakness to electricity? I haven't played a game where she is, but in Super Metroid she isn't disabled by electricity, she just takes damage. |
um, i fail to see how her incredibly easy to predict screw attacks would negate X's ability to dash. instant acceleration means that he can outrun the fuggin' missles. and remember: X fires missles.
also, note that X can jump in lava and lose 1 or 2 bars of hp, while samus will lose around 30 to 40 before X gets hit again. using that, X has WAYYYY more life than samus. |
If X falls on a spike he dies instantly and Samus survives, so don't even bring obstacles up. Bosses take big chunks out of X's life, and Samus is at least equal to any X boss, so she would do decent damage at least. Also, all Samus would have to do is hit X with 1 freeze beam, and he's a sitting target for about 5 seconds, more than enough time to hit him with a super missle.
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using the "samus is an X boss" theory, then whenever she's hit with a charged shot, she gets stunned, and X automatically gets a weapon that's godly against her.
elec strips her armor like vs. the armadillo sounds about right. |
Well, how easy is it for her to hit X with a freeze beam? Most of his charged up attacks make him invicible while they are being used at first, two protect him completely, and he can always dash-jump away from it.
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Unless she is a Final stages boss, in which case the weakness does extra damage but has no bonus effect on her. And I don't know what version of Megaman X you played, but last I checked X's normal charged shot didn't stun bosses when it hit.
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heh, check again, almost all megaman games have a slight stun with the fully charged attack. those can even hit bosses out of moves, depending on the boss, and on the move.
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Depending on the boss and the move, so a half second stun wouldn't effect Samus for anything crucial anyway. She could still avoid any retaliation X could try in the half second she's stunned, because any charged attack takes too long, a normal shot won't do much damage, and most of X's special attacks are fairly slow moving so Samus could dodge them when she recovers. All her attacks are instantaneous accept her charge, so it wouldn't interrupt any of those either. And she could still freeze X fairly easily since with wide beam she could just blaze away until she gets in a lucky shot and freezes X for long enough for her to get in a Super missle or two. Repeat until opponent is dead.
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X's attacks aren't slow, and to fully charge it only takes about 1 second. He could just charge up the Pink Sheild thing, then go for Samus. When she jumps up to avoid him, switch to missle, and wait for her to drop with her screw attack, or to stop and shot, either way it's dash and shot. Then repeat until opponent is dead. (Can replace sheild with cameleon, and missles with charged wind or charged electric)
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considering as she can't dodge homing missles... and how X can launch 5 ultra speedy ones at once... besides, as soon as X gets frozen, he'll have time to escape before the hit invincibility wears off. not to mention that samus can keep getting damaged by terrain effects, meaning that a tornado would basically pin down samus and drain her life
also, why aren't we using the original samus? if samus gets 3 games experience, then X should have all abilities until X3 |
Because the challenge was X from Mega man X vs. Samus from Super Metroid, and she doesn't have every power since metroid 1, she gets all of her powers in Super Metroid.
Samus has hit invincibility too, so is X hit her and stunned her with his charge shot, she would be invincible to the counter attack. And the arena doesn't have any obstacles. And Samus's freeze lasts for around 5 seconds and hit invincibility lasts for 3, so she would still get a free hit with super missle. Regadless of what any of us say, we aren't going ot change the other's minds, so I'm suddenly wonder why I am continuing to argue. EDIT: And we are about to hit the max for a forum thread... |
You went over it. Like 70 to 80 posts is it.
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I thought it was 100
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I ment the 4 page limit. I'll just end it with I really think X would win. Just becuase I think guys can beat girls.
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haha, you guys are awsome. ive already got my next debate topic ready.
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God almighty, how did this thread get so long without one of us noticing? Anyway, closing, start over again if you want to.
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