The Warring States of NPF - #489 - "So, we gonna make out or what?"

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I agree with the guy who said that BM is Chaos. Not the BBEG at the end of the game, but a manifestation of the idea. Which is why he's so attracted to WM, a manifestation of Order. Their world views are polar opposites, but y'know what they say. Opposites attract.

Black mage isn't evil. There's good in him, I know it.

Because Black Mage was originally... ANAKIN SKYWALKER!!

lol. Sorry, but all this talk about BM having a good side reminded me of "Return of the Jedi". I just thought I'd add that joke.

I don't think :bmage: has a good side so much as a 'less evil' side. Like in #186.

My personal view is that the "less evil" side is what's left of his real human self, and the "more evil" side is the irresistible, mind-shattering will of his all-consuming power. His original good side is laying broken and sodomized in a corner somewhere.

I think we are looking at half of the story. We have all the dirt on :bmage: but we haven't learned anything about WM 's past, I mean we know now HOW BM got his Hadoken and how he first met :fighter: but we don't know how WM became a mage of faith, and if we do, then point out the episode. In order to understand the full situation we must first know both sides of the argument. WM is a white mage, she follows her beliefs, and probably is chastise, but that is all I can honestly say about her without going into speculation.

Basically if you are too lazy to read all that (because I know I would be)
we can only prove 1/2 of the equation of :wmage: and :bmage:

EDIT: not sure about the spelling of Chastise, but if you don't know it means she's not allow to... well... you know... have sex

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Originally Posted by Loyal2NES

Actually, he said this himself:

:bmage:: Hey, I know the difference between right and wrong. I simply don't care.

Yeah, but his statement in #489 would seem to imply he actually does care (to some extent).

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Originally Posted by Burning Ninja

I think we are looking at half of the story. We have all the dirt on but we haven't learned anything about WM 's past, I mean we know now HOW BM got his Hadoken and how he first met but we don't know how WM became a mage of faith, and if we do, then point out the episode. In order to understand the full situation we must first know both sides of the argument. WM is a white mage, she follows her beliefs, and probably is chastise, but that is all I can honestly say about her without going into speculation.

Basically if you are too lazy to read all that (because I know I would be)
we can only prove 1/2 of the equation of and

EDIT: not sure about the spelling of Chastise, but if you don't know it means she's not allow to... well... you know... have sex

"Chastise" means "punish." The word you're looking for is "chaste."

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Originally Posted by Red Apprentice

Well, I think PhantomFox's point was that BM acknowleged that something would be "sicko" at all, indicating he does have some concept of right and wrong.

actually, I think that he may have considered wasting the opportunity to get something for sacrificing them would have been 'sicko'.

I, myself, also believe that BM is confused about morals. Like here: http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030920

I also believe that BM deffinatly has a possible chance of turning to the light. He almost got to a break through before. Like here: http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030531

Of course there are small signs that say the opposite. Such as the last pannel of episode 262. it was just a random one I found. I know their are others.

But, anywho, I'm still a believer. Yup.

Wait... Wait...
:wmage:"You did it, blackmage!"
:bmage:"So, you still don't hate me?"

Blackmage saved them all, even when he knew that the Hadoken could end all his chances with WM? And he really does care about what WM thinks of him, it wasn't a trick? He saved WM, and the other LW (I believe his intention was only to save WM, but that saving the others was accidental), When he could have saved only himself with minimal effort?
He... He... Blackmage did a good thing for others (He saved WM), even when the possibility of great personal loss was certain?
CRWAZY!

Am I the only one who see's the possibility that BM could be the Nuklear Power equivilent of Darth Vader if he had wound up joining the Rebellion? There is good in him, but it takes a whole lot of stuff to go down before it can manifest itself, perhaps culmonating in BM's death?