More proof I am right
 

My comment for a while has been that nintendo's next console will feature a new controller which will change the way we will play games, and that it will be a gyroscopics controller, much like what is used in minority report, which can sense movement in verticle and horizontal movement, as well as what angle it's held in as well as being 10,000 times more sensitive then analog.

The data backing up this theory is the fact that since the launch of the N64, nintendo has been investing unlimited funds into a gyroscopics company, as long as they reaped the end product. Also, the statement just made by a Nintendo spokesperson to Diamond Weekly(A Japanese Business Magazine), that the controller for the Revolution console will not feature 'standard buttons' or digital pads.

Any thoughts?

Personally, I think that if nintendo could successfully pull this controller off to the degree I anticipate, they would anhilate any competition if they are using the same analog technology

Well, just as it might be an amazing achievement and just peak peoples intrest, it could just as easily tick off or completly turn off a host of other group of people who like to play games to 'old fashioned way'.

I actually don't quite know what you mean when you describe this new type of control for a possible system (Haven't seen Minoriy Report), but if it can really become a new way of creating motion and control, I would definitly be for it. Only problem is, along with new forms of control and the obvious new types of games that have to be created to utilize the controls, you also have to wonder if we'll be able to be able to play the 'old' types of games on it. Will we be able to transfer Mario into this new relm, or would he have to be totally redone? How about Racing games? How about RPGs? Fighters? Even Flight Sims.

I'm all up for change, but Nintendo is trying to get their new system out before any of the other systems and doing it with basically technology that has never been done before. That's going to be tough, seeing as how its taking PS3 almost 9 years to get finished (projected 2007 or 2008) and they're only trying to increase the graphical output, not even invent new controllers or ways to program games, etc.

actually all the systems are projected to launch in 2006, microsoft actually plans to push the Xenon up to end of 2005 to be the first on the market. which both sony and nintendo are upset about as they say a company needs to wait at least 5 years to launch another console.

Most likely what the controller will be is some kind of handle, for simple demonstration purposes we'll say a stick, what gyroscpics will allow is the ability for say in first person shooter wherever you point the stick is where the person on the screen will point their gun. in a racing game, you could turn the stick sideways so it's like you're holding the top of a stearing wheel and as you turn the stick the steering wheel in the game turns. if it were something as fundamentally simple as a stick there would most likely grooves on the stick where your hand goes and buttons at the tips of the fingers, also probably a fundamentally simpler smaller secondary controller for things that would be rediculous to attempt to use the stick in.

Another possibility for this would be a glove for similar purposes, but that is far less likely

Well. Not to be overly simplistic and kill the idea, but I don't want to play a game system entirely with joysticks. I just simply wouldn't engoy RPGs, games like Zelda, Racers or fighters with a joystick, no matter how sensetive it is....

I'm a little confused as to your statement, this is NOTHING like a joystick

Maxis, I think what Lucerin is referring to is a stick you would hold, in your hand, aloft, connected to nothing (wireless, ala Wavebird if possible). It would be a stick. For example, hold a pencil by the middle, wrap your hand around the long end. Thats the kinda stick he's talking about, except bigger and more ergonomic.

Out of curiosity Lucerin, do you ahve anything to back this up besides the investments into the gyroscopics company? Thats obviously very compelling, but it'd be nice to see something else. And frankly, I'd love to see a glove.

well nintendo had made the statement a while ago about how they HATE modern controllers, in which that they are too complex and while it's fine for experienced gamers to use the systems, those who don't on a regular basis have difficulty jumping into the game without spending time learning the controls, also it's less easy to get lost in the game when your told to rapidly tap the A button. Another point they made is also that with each successor console, the only thing that really has seemed to change is the graphics, and graphics can only take you so far. So they're going to start a revolution. Which is obviously why they codenamed their next console Project Revolution.

Now my hypothesis does not have any solid evidence at this point, but all the information given definitely seems to point that way. Otherwise why would nintendo invest so much money into the gyroscopics company. It just wouldn't make much sense. and what else would they use gyroscopics other then in a controller. and the handle/stick format is just the most logical manifest at this time.

There really will be no way to confirm this information til the console is debuted at E3 in may, (which I will be attending, yay!), but it doesn't hurt exploring the possibilities

Oh. Well when he was describing a 'stick', all I could think of was a joystick which does the functions he was describing. But wireless control would be great. Kind of like how on the DS, you can play Mario 64 now, except there's no joystick and the touch pad does the motion. And it makes the motion a LOT more sensetive.

I'll give you a cookie to sneak me into E3. Theres been a lot of discussion about what else Revolution could be. The question is: What else could use gyroscopes? I mean, Nintendo is a nice company but they don't just throw money into a company for shits and giggles. They do something, they expect to make a profit out of it. So where else could you put a gyroscope but in a controller? Perhaps in a handheld? I believe in Kirby Pinball for GBA there was a sensor for which way you tipped the GBA. How did that work?

It wouldn't make much sense to put the gryoscope in the console, and you couldn't put it in the TV. Perhaps the gyroscope is something the player attaches to their body which detects movements, like an armband or something? Seems a little clumsy though.

Yeah, your first theory was correct: Kirby's Tiltn'tumble had a miniture gyroscope inside the cartridge itself...

If they put a gyroscope directly into the new console, it could save alot of money on production costs of games that utillize the tilt feature, because they wouldn't have to install seperate gyroscopes into each little cartridge. Also, these days the cartridges are just too small to be logistically compatable with individual gyroscopes....