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KingOfChaos 12-17-2003 01:59 PM

Return of the King
 
Couldn't find a forum dedicated to movies, so I decided to post this here.

This has to be the best movie of our time. Well, att least I think so ;) Has anyone else watched it yet?

I especially like the way the WitchKing is executed. I had flashes of Black Mage in my head when it happened ^_^

Gramcrackered 12-17-2003 02:12 PM

I've heard unsettling comments about the ending being really long, slow and generally disorganized. Is that true?

Viper Daimao 12-17-2003 02:17 PM

So increadibly good. its has to be the best of the series. Sam just kicked ass in the movie, the shelob battle was cool. the scene where aragorn hops off the boat and all the orc are like "What?" was cool as hell. and then theres when legolas decided to take on the huge, huge war elephant and its crew. i mean damn man, that was all suave.

Gramcrackered 12-17-2003 02:38 PM

Can't say I honestly ever cared about the changes they made in the movies, nor that I think many of you will care about the following. I mean, those of you who care the most about the changes are also probably the ones who already knew all this, right?
Regardless, I happened to stumble across this information about changes in "Return of the King" shortly after my earlier post.


Aragorn
Who he is: Rightful heir to the throne of Gondor and the king part of "Return of the King."
Big changes: In the books, Aragorn spends his life in steadfast preparation to reclaim his heritage. In the film, he's a waffler who isn't sure he wants to be king, taking up his fabled sword Anduril only in "Return of the King" (two books late) when he thinks his elf girlfriend is in danger.

Arwen
Who she is: The half-elven daughter of Elrond who gives up immortality for love of Aragorn.
Big changes: In the books, Arwen's role is small and veiled until the end; in the movies, she's a sword-wielding heroine. Among the most jarring invented scenes, in "Return of the King" Elrond journeys to warn Aragorn that Arwen is dying, and will perish unless Aragorn claims his destiny. Never happened. There's also a grating bit where Arwen decides to abandon Aragorn and sail to the land of immortality, until she has a big daddy-you-lied-to-me moment after seeing a vision of the child she and Aragorn could otherwise have.

Frodo and Sam
Who they are: The hobbit ring-bearer and his sidekick, true-blue (at least in the book) companions.
Big changes: "Return of the King" does a fine job overall showing the love and loyalty between the pair. But it bizarrely invents a scene in which Frodo is gulled into believing Sam has betrayed him, and Frodo then abandons his buddy in the middle of Mordor. And Sam, the one pure character who is never tempted to keep the Ring, is given a greedy "my-precioussssss" moment.

Saruman
Who he is: Corrupted wizard who abandons the side of good to align with the evil lord Sauron.
Big changes: Saruman's role was inflated in "The Two Towers," making it appear as though he's the trilogy's chief foe. But he disappears entirely in "Return of the King," dismissed with the tying-up-loose-ends comment that Saruman is nothing to worry about anymore. The film also deletes the book's "you can't go home again" ending, where the hobbits return to the Shire to find it bespoiled and virtually enslaved under Saruman's rule. In the film's world, the four hobbits clink their glasses together at a hometown pub instead of getting back in the saddle to fight evildoers.

Meister 12-17-2003 02:44 PM

As much as I hate being the spoil-sport... that sounds outright awful.

Dona Maria 12-17-2003 02:53 PM

one of my greatest memories from childhood was listening to the RotK on a record player while following along with the little picture book (hey, we were poor ok?) my favorite line was:

Evil guy: (in screaching high voice) "Hahahaha! No man can ever defeat me!"
Kick ass chick: "Well I am a woman"
Evil guy: *gasp of suprise*

are you telling me that doesnt happen in the movie? (will see it tonight most likely)

Viper Daimao 12-17-2003 03:03 PM

SPOILERS




no, it does. the evil guy is the witchking. only the woman, Éowyn, said "I am no man" *stab in the face attack!* and down goes angmar

Dona Maria 12-17-2003 03:09 PM

sweet, chicks kick ass. mmmmmmm yes.....

Forever Zero 12-17-2003 03:12 PM

I heard/knew about some of those changes, but not all of them. I haven't seen it yet, and I know it will be awsome, but just hearing about those was enough to kill my rabid desire to see it. I was disappointed when I heard that the final scene from the book was cut, and was disappointed by some of the other changes that have been made to the books, and while overall I think the movies are awsome, they would have been perfect if they had just not changed a few things.

HRslammR 12-17-2003 05:21 PM

it's frickin awesome.

go see it then send out word that it is awesome and all should see it.

it's got to win best picture.


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