what liberal media
 

http://www.whatliberalmedia.com/intro.pdf

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mmmm, Ann Coulter, I think what she needs is a little Funka in her life, I'd take her mind off of ravenous right wing liberal hating real quick!

all jokes aside, I'm glad somebody said it! The "liberal media" is much like the "boogey man" waiting in the closet of all good conservatives, its not really there, it a story given life through imagination. I must applaud the work conservatices are doing, if nothing it is effective. Much like someone stealing your wallet while you don't notice, then pointing out another random person in the crowd and yelling "Hey, that guy just stole your wallet!"

The entire conservative platform is based in a socio-psychological undertone of christian values and altruism, I do not find it surprising in the least that right-wing bomb tossing pundits see proof as superfluous. You do not need to prove belief, and that is what the right is based in, belief, not fact.

I find the term "smart conservative" confusing, not that I think them unintelligent by default, just that anyone with the ability to observe reality should be able to see beyond the facade they put up. Smart conservatives scare me, they must know the underlying futility of their espoused ideology, yet they further it with such fanaticism and ability. They further their agendas through mass subterfuge, and are successful. It's really quite scary to me.

I want to be a pundit! That job would kick ass!

Personally, from my perspective, whenever a story, or just a fact of reality, turns out to be damaging to conservatives, they automatically write it off as a Liberal Bias. I mean, sometimes the truth hurts, and whimping out and claiming 'No Fair!' or 'Liberal Bias!', doesn't make it any less true.

And if there really was a Liberal Bias in media, why are they're no outright Liberal pundits with their own shows? At best, Liberal pundits get teamed up with a Conservative counterpart, but they never get their own shows. Oh sure, you might point out Lou Dobbs (or whoever) supposedly being a representative of that, but honestly, as a liberal leaning progressive, I can say that hardly cuts it, when you compare him to some conservative pundits like Bill O'Reily.

Its just that, in comparision, there is no comparison. Supposedly Liberal shows never push the Liberal agenda like a Conservative show. Its just that, because of the taint of Liberal Bias, I think that even liberal leaning shows, go a lot out of their way to provide a fair look at both sides of an issue. Moreso than O'Reily, at least, who edits his show & shuts off the microphone when he hears stuff he doesn't like.

Personally, I've seen/heard Liberal Bias, in Air America or a Documentary, and there is no comparison between that & supposed Liberal Bias that exists in normal news. In fact, if anything there's more of a Conservative Bias if you count the numberous no-names that show up in CNN or MSNBC throughout the day.

SWK
- A good resource on this would be http://mediamatters.org/ , which trys to hold media accountable for its bias. And the head guy David Brock used to be a Conservative, but had a change of heart. I don't know his history off the top of my head, but he was involved in writing some documentation for the Starr's legal team.

All news anchors/t.v stations lean towards a political spectrum, it's not just liberal bias it's conservative ideals as well. Here's the skinny..

FOX News is deffinitly the right-wing news station. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. I live right by Channel 13 FOX news and bluh, they're always ranting about something the boogey men of politics (AKA the democrats.) did something to make bush'es job harder. :rolleyes:

CNN is the lefty's station. Channel 8 ABC here is owned by CNN. They can be just as annoying because all they ever seem to talk about is the same crap over and over like a broken record. However I tend to like them just a tad more because sometimes they do stories on low-carb..

MSNBC News is SOMEWHAT leniant to the right, but not nearly as much so as fox news, it's about as close to the middle-ground as you're going to get..

You just have to kind of go with it and pick and choose what you want to hear from these media sources.. Which ussualy isn't much considering the ideologues ussualy end up bringing up the same shite for the unteenth time.

Strangly both sides pick a Jackson to hate. Liberals got thier boy-molesting Michal, conservatives got thier moronic whore Janet.

Frankly I think they do it on purpose cause they know that's what people want to hear. If they REALLY wanted to put an end to it they'd make a restraining order form where MJ is not to come within so much feet of children besides maybe his own and JJ's career plummets.. err more so..

But what can I say, we're the offspring of the Jerry Springer generation..

Conservatism is based on the fact that mankind is evil and is attempting to screw you over for his own gain.

A conservative disagrees with a liberal vehemently, but will still allow him to speak. A liberal by definition sees the conservative as assaulting their freedom. They want the government to pay for them and to do whatever they want. My problem with the liberal point of view is that everyone believes things are being done to them and it's not their own fault, and that if we would just suck each other's dicks we would have a utopia.

"...the underlying futility of their espoused ideology." All that is is using big words with no logical argument behind them. How is conservatism futile? "Mass subterfuge." Both ideologies are equally guilty of that, and you know it. "The right is based in belief, not fact." Just another baseless sentence that is either there to incite anger or something you've been fed by your parents.

Returning to the topic. All news is biased. You can't be unbiased in the news business. Even Funka G's arguments are biased. And since this thread seems to be leaning towards "rights are teh suck", here's an example of the liberal media at work. The Seattle PI said that opening a NASCAR track in Washington State would be a waste of tax dollars and would only benefit "stupid, blue-collar conservatives and would pollute the Earth and cut down trees." This is an actual quote.

Everyone's biased, both right and left, and nothing's ever going to change that. I also hate that when people hear the word "conservative" they immediately think right wing extremist christians who chant "God is good" and want to indoctrinate your children. I'm a conservative, we don't bite.

oh wow. that book is almost as bad as Bias.

Yeah, then he complains about Goldberg's exagerations.

I have this barely controlable urge to scream "BITCH FIGHT!"

Let's see which monkey can fling more feces at the other!

Unless they are a group of individuals brought together under the sole pour pose of making money. Conservatives seem to have unbound trust in corporations and take the general stance that the honor system is best used when it comes to regulation of industry. Last I checked voluntary environmental regulations are about as effective as optional prison regulations. I’m not saying that corporations are pure evil, we need them. There blood thirsty drive for profit is the engine that drives our economy, we simply need to realize that exist for the sole reason of making money and expect them to break every rule they can get away with.

I believe in liberal ideas because I don’t trust people. I have come to realize that power naturally gravitates towards those who already posses it. All things being equal the strong get stronger, and the weak get weaker. This is something that can be opposed by a properly run government. But without government controls an aristocracy develops naturally.

that is so sig material

But...what? That's not even liberal. Liberals, by definition, believe that everyone is good by nature.

nono, Liberals think you are too weak and incompitant to live by yourself with out a government program to tell you what to do or provide you with the goods you need.