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Truce 02-17-2005 08:45 PM

Magical Theory
 
With the argument about Fire, Fire 2, and Fire 3 versus Fire, Fira, and Firaga, a thought passed through my head: "What does make a spell powerful?"

Obviously, it's the name, since we don't really hear the Final Fantasy characters doing any kind of chant.

Numbers obviously make a spell more powerful. The Higher the number the more powerful it is. However, with recent changes, the number has been replaced with the last syllable being the factor. So let's take a look at the normal spell line once again: Fire, Fira, Firaga.

Fire is the weakest, Fira is the middle spell, and Firaga is the strongest.

However, we also have to take into account the most powerful spell of them all-Ultima. It's only kind of spell of it's kind for most of the games. However, in theory, if we change the M to an R and add in a GA at the end it's power will be cubed.

It's name would be Ultiraga, and adding in the old number counting system it would be Ultiraga 4.

But wait! Remember Holy? Well, there's a seemingly more powerful version out there, DARK Holy, which is usable by demons in FFT. So now we just have to add in a DARK to the spell name and it's powered even more!

Now it's name should be Dark Ultiraga 4. Cool, huh?

Finally, we take into account what kinds of magic are the strongest. White and Black magic are great, but they're nothing compared to Summoning Magic in terms of pure power.

So now it shall be called Summon Dark Ultiraga 4!

And what does this spell do? Well...I've no clue, but I'm guessing that it has to do and Onion Breathing Bahamut Zero X that makes the whole universe explode when it's summoned. Or maybe it just plays "It's a Small World" over and over until your ears bleed.

Any thoughts, ideas, or arguments?

mammothtank 02-17-2005 09:38 PM

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How much MP would such a spell consume? You've combined Ultima, summon magic, and DARK and put it to the fourth power! Summon magic is expensive to cast, as is Ultima. How would anyone acquire enough MP to use this "Summon Dark Ultiraga 4?"

And as for effects, I think it would pwn any boss in one hit without fail.

Terex4 02-17-2005 09:55 PM

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How much MP would such a spell consume?
Well lets break it down....
Ultima=80 MP
Summon=It would have to be the same effect as ultima but more powerful so I'll say 100 MP
Raga=3x base add 300 MP
Dark=Merely an upgraded opposite elemental. Since ultima is nonelemental it won't change much, I'll add 10 MP to the base spell for additonal power.
4=Four times the cost of the base spell which would be Dark Ultiraga
Because the base is a summon, I used the summon version of ultima as the base.

Ultiraga 1=410 MP
Ultiraga 4=1,640 MP
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How would anyone acquire enough MP to use this "Summon Dark Ultiraga 4?"
Well, if the maximum MP for any person is 999, it would take two people of maximum spell capabilities casting it together.
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And what does this spell do?
I think the party would disappear and a giant black bubble would appear. At the fourth power, it would probably take out the battlefield as well as 1000 sq. miles of the surrounding area. The party would reappear in a crater.

Zweihander 02-17-2005 11:02 PM

Actually, it goes like this

weak - name
medium - namara
strong - namaga.

It isn't namarag. This is just because of Fire having an R.

Fire, Firara, Firaga
Blizzard, Blizzara, Blizzaga
Thunder, Thundara, Thundaga

See?

Truce 02-17-2005 11:09 PM

Mammoth-Actually, you only need one MP to cast, with an economizer equipped, or a special skill that reduces how much mana you have to use.

DoD-Wait, wouldn't the party reappear in the exact same spot? It would probably be a long drop....but then again, it makes more sense than mine.

Zwei-So what should we name the spell then, Summon Dark Ultimaraga 4?

Zweihander 02-17-2005 11:14 PM

If you insist on putting all that in there, it would be Summon Dark Ultimaga 4. However, the number and Aga systems seem to be exclusive, and Ultima is never a Summon magic, since you can't actually summon Ultima. To be Summoned, it needs to be an actual being, such as a Phoenix, a god like Odin or Shiva, or something that's practically a force of nature, like Ramuh. Ultima is normally classed as a Black Magic spell, which is seperate from Summoing Magic.

Now, if Ultima is an actual being, then it could work. But Ultima is just usually a blast of pure energy directed at all enemies.

Truce 02-17-2005 11:17 PM

Alas, you don't recall the Atma Weapon from FF6? It's original meaning was supposed to be Ultima, but it got messed up.

So yes, Ultima being an actual creature isn't too hard to imagine.

The_Bear 02-17-2005 11:30 PM

Don't forget Doublecast, everyone loves Doublecast. Summon Dark Ultimaga 4 sounds pretty good, but what about Summon Dark Holy Ultimaga Bahamut Flare 4?

mammothtank 02-18-2005 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecurt
Mammoth-Actually, you only need one MP to cast, with an economizer equipped, or a special skill that reduces how much mana you have to use.

I hadn't thought of that! I completely forgot about the Economizer. The ultimate spell ever costs 1 MP!

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Originally Posted by The Bear
Don't forget Doublecast, everyone loves Doublecast. Summon Dark Ultimaga 4 sounds pretty good, but what about Summon Dark Holy Ultimaga Bahamut Flare 4?

I think my brain just exploded.

The Argent Lord 02-18-2005 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zweihander
If you insist on putting all that in there, it would be Summon Dark Ultimaga 4. However, the number and Aga systems seem to be exclusive, and Ultima is never a Summon magic, since you can't actually summon Ultima. To be Summoned, it needs to be an actual being, such as a Phoenix, a god like Odin or Shiva, or something that's practically a force of nature, like Ramuh. Ultima is normally classed as a Black Magic spell, which is seperate from Summoing Magic.

Now, if Ultima is an actual being, then it could work. But Ultima is just usually a blast of pure energy directed at all enemies.

Ultima is a Totema in FFTA.


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