Has anyone seen this before.
 

It raises some interesting points.
http://www.ericblumrich.com/14.html

Well I wouldn't go so far as to call America fascist, as my ability to write this without fear of reprisals (beyond logical arguments against it) or censorship is somewhat garunteed, It has had fascist elements post 9/11 - Its more of a matter of degrees, between the time of the German nationist socialist party post reichstag burning and American nationalism after 9/11.


Many Americans are just afraid of another 9/11, and thus they are overreacting somewhat, but things will hopefully improve as the reactions are seen as too severe (patriot act, iraq war) and people will start to cool the reaction and start using more logic and less fear and anger in the face of opposition.

But that only addresses one aspect of the fascist argument

The strong nationalist tendencies are what leads to fascism. The censorship is just part of the end result.

What’s the point of having a technically free press if the public won’t let them say anything bad about the country?

In the end patriotism is the single most destructive force for a democracy.

Fascist elements (current/tendencies) would be a more accurate of saying it. I'm not sure about some of those points being representative of fascism, though, but I guess that's not the point.

While some of those may be true, they are forgetting the actual DEFINITION of fascism.

That doesn't quite describe America. If America was fascist, protestors would be met with M4 Assault Rifles and such.

There's more than one definition of fascism, and there's quite a bit of dicussion about that. There's several different historical examples of fascism (and there's no agreement about which are fascistic), there must be thousands of models for "fascism" (something that wouldn't be held by the particulars of the case, the essential fascism) that have been theorized, emphasizing this or that aspect or approach.

There are worldview/psychology approaches (much like the one on this site), there are foreign policy approaches, and so on.

Still, parts of the one from Dictionnary.com you cited (and I'm not sure it was the only one there) fit the way the site interprets it. In any case, saying it is the ACTUAL definition of fascism is a bit of an exageration. Of course, to say that a fourteen point comparisons can give the conclusion that the USA are fascist is very simplistic as well.

I would be inclined to think that those rules apply to ALL cases not specific ones. Most of those rules were violated by America only on incredibly embarrising scandals that disgrace our country. The biggest flaw in our country is the unskeptical attention we pay to mass media, and the loss of the power of the people. Corperations are reducing or destroying the incomes of millions of Americans and its not being stopped. The anti Monopoly laws need to have a rebirth. Patriotism is in every successful country. People displaying the flag of their country is not something shameful and it doesnt belong on that list. Its like saying money is commonly found in fascist countries.

Speaking of the topic.

Has anyone seen this before?

The history channel special on Hitler's second book? Very creepy. Besides the Arian countries of Germany, Britian, and Italy Hitler decided there was an even greater country. America is that evolutionary advanced country. It takes the best of the best from the rest of the world.

Hitler admired America for its treatment of 'inferior' races such as the Native American Indians and Chinese/Irish immagrants. The goal of WW2 was to conquor Europe and the rest of the world so Germany could then prepare to fight the superior country America. Hitler figured Germany would eventually require a battle with America and the sooner the better. However, Japan screwed that up. (conspiracy theories abound here) In all honesty, I doubt we would have stood by and watched Hitler Conquer the world. Except we did, until we were attacked.

The evidence is blatant.
The Bismark was the first of many Super Battleships which were under construction designed to fight the United States. Then there is the America Bomber which was designed to fly over the pacific and bomb the eastern coast of the United States.


Heres all I could find on the subject its from the HistoryChannel.com

"In 1958, in a sweltering, converted torpedo factory in Alexandria, Virginia, historian Gerhard L. Weinberg was combing through massive stacks of documents that the U.S. had captured from Nazi Germany. In a faded green box, Weinberg came across an unknown prize--a secret book dictated by Adolf Hitler in 1928, the unpublished sequel to Mein Kampf. Mixed in with Hitler's racial hatred, the book contained shocking revelations of his master plan for continuous war. We follow the clues to its discovery and show the rigorous steps taken to authenticate the document--the book is considered legitimate. And we reveal the contents of the book, including Hitler's plan for global domination culminating in an invasion of America!"

I agree that America couldn’t realistically be called a fascist state… yet. In a few years (could be anywhere from to fifty) if the current trends continue the same could not be said.

But as far as defining fascism, that is a difficult question. Typically its done by looking at the states we know to be fascist and identifying what specifically sets them apart from other states.

The basis of all fascist sates is patriotism. This is pretty much all everyone agrees on.

EDIT: I think if you looked outside of your borders you would find that the patriotism that seems so essential for a successful country is not as common outside of the US. While all successful states have some measure of patriotism it is nothing compared to the flag waving present in the US. I vacationed in southern California last summer and was shocked by the number of flags. I counted 13 on one block (I might add more that there where houses).

I’m sick of sugar coating it, from now on lets just call it what it is, its not patriotism its nationalism.

Nationalism is essential for a country, especially a democracy, to come into existence. Without nationalism the only thing that keeps a country together is its leader, through fear or charisma (look an Iraq under Saddam). But once a country is established and everybody learns to play nice nationalism becomes a hindrance. Without nationalism you look like a dick to people who don’t have the advantages you have (immigrants from repressive regimes) with it … your less likely to call the government on doing stupid shit because they are the state. And the state is good. What are the up sides to nationalism because I cant see any.

Most countries grow out of the nationalist stage, and most advanced countrys have legalized gay marriage.
I don’t know who said it but “from a social perspective America is about 50 years behind the rest of the first world.”

The 2004 elections were fraudulent? News to me.......a freaking Broom Handle could have beaten Zombie Kerry.

Yeah, Kerry was a hippie. Do you really want a hippie running your country?

EDIT: Wait... Zombie Kerry?