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Originally Posted by Jagos View Post
By growing up and moving on before the Big Bad Boss fight?
No, by completely delving into narm territory. His speech was just so overdone that it ruined the impact of the moment for me. His mortal enemy just killed the woman who mystified and beguiled him, so he held her as she died in his arms, laid her gently to rest, and immediately unleashed his emotion-laden revenge on her kil-AHAHAHA, no, he sat there holding her for ten minutes going on about how she was dead while Sephiroth just stood there calling him an idiot before waltzing out sans one instant-boss tentacle.

On the other hand, when Buenhagen died, Red showed an actual resistance to the idea, an unwillingness to accept the loss of the only person he had left, acting as if by refusing to accept or allow it, it could be avoided, and lamenting in simple terms when he realized he was powerless, ending the scene with a single, baleful howl, which said so much more than any of what Cloud came out with.

Cloud handled Aeris' death with immediate acceptance and dialogue so bad that THE MAIN VILLAIN called it out as bullshit, where Red's reaction to Bugenhagen's death was so much more human and heart-wrenching.

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Why do people hate FFII so much ? The game is pretty cool !
I admit that the "level up" system is a huge pain in the ass..... but ....
It has a good story, it has a real plotline and also lots of interaction with villains and other characters. It's true that the story is a bit cliche at times... but still, it's pretty good for NES standards.
The music and the graphics are better than FFI's.
While it was technically superior in nearly every way, it tried to do too much all at once and misstepped the execution on a lot of it. Natural growth could have been good if it had been handled a bit better. To level spells up, you had to use them hundreds of times, which was prohibitive given your low MP. It wouldn't have been nearly as bad if your stat growth hadn't been so pathetic, so the game essentially expects you to ride off the seat of your pants to get anywhere. Then there was the weapon proficiency system, not a bad idea, if it hadn't prevented you from actually specializing in a weapon. But no, to get anywhere with one weapon after the third level, you had to work on other weapons, meaning your party would usually be operating with sub-optimal equipment. Then there was the illusion of an open map, only instead of walls, they blocked areas off with battles far beyond your party's abilities, so the only way you knew not to go somewhere was by dying and reloading. Not to mention the fact that there were also places you HAD to go where the enemies would crush you like bugs. On top of that, the keyword system turned the game into a protracted chore of rubbing every word you came across on every NPC one by one like a bad adventure game in hopes they'd reward you with more than just a different bit of text. These are all things that could have worked if they'd been handled better, or would have been forgivable if done alone, but the game was a hodgepodge of poor execution to the point that most people didn't get far enough for the story to actually unfold.
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