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Menarker · 04-28-2010, 12:54 PM

Well, keep in mind that in the pokemon games, a normal level 100 shuckles can withstand a STAB Earthquake from the level 100 legendary Groudon with only 1/3 of his health lost. (Look up a youtube video) Compared to other pokemons of the same level, Shuckle has only a base stat of 20 HP . Now apply that to Mollesk who has the same DEF and SDEF as Shuckle to start with, but has almost 100 extra base stat points in hit points. Now consider that Mollesk can practically double both his defences with Cosmic Power. Mollesk is a literal tank. Mind you, with sleep status and sleep attacking moves, Enmakki can still win (and honestly, it's more likely he would win), but it won't be an easy fight by any margin (and it'll be long too).

I imagine dual Follow Me would fail to operate.

What I was saying with that bit that you quoted is that enemies will notice and start taking action once they see what is going on. I won't have the luxury of getting those buffs unmolested. They'll attacking and maintaining pressure and all that. Yes, once I manage to get to that point, it's a steep uphill battle for them, but it's the same for me since any smart trainer will try to foil the plan before it can be put into action (or let me finish setting up while they attack something else, and then use Haze when I try to attack so my multiple turns spent buffing are wasted.)

Which is entirely possible given how a trainer can just switch a pokemon in AND use a move at the same turn. I could be fighting 10 Hitmonlees and trying to pump up my team for 3 or four turns. However, on the turn before I would attack, the trainer sends out Arbok or some other pokemon (Many poison types has Haze) and uses Haze. Before I can react or even attack, it's all gone and I've been battered hard for no reward. Getting too greedy with buffs can be an issue!

AB: Can pokemon trainers aside from Renny, Charlotte and Pierce use the same upgrades they can? Like can Dominic use Divide or can Moon use Focus and that sort of thing? Are the foes capable of doing the same?

04-28-2010, 12:54 PM	#5
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Well, keep in mind that in the pokemon games, a normal level 100 shuckles can withstand a STAB Earthquake from the level 100 legendary Groudon with only 1/3 of his health lost. (Look up a youtube video) Compared to other pokemons of the same level, Shuckle has only a base stat of 20 HP . Now apply that to Mollesk who has the same DEF and SDEF as Shuckle to start with, but has almost 100 extra base stat points in hit points. Now consider that Mollesk can practically double both his defences with Cosmic Power. Mollesk is a literal tank. Mind you, with sleep status and sleep attacking moves, Enmakki can still win (and honestly, it's more likely he would win), but it won't be an easy fight by any margin (and it'll be long too). I imagine dual Follow Me would fail to operate. What I was saying with that bit that you quoted is that enemies will notice and start taking action once they see what is going on. I won't have the luxury of getting those buffs unmolested. They'll attacking and maintaining pressure and all that. Yes, once I manage to get to that point, it's a steep uphill battle for them, but it's the same for me since any smart trainer will try to foil the plan before it can be put into action (or let me finish setting up while they attack something else, and then use Haze when I try to attack so my multiple turns spent buffing are wasted.) Which is entirely possible given how a trainer can just switch a pokemon in AND use a move at the same turn. I could be fighting 10 Hitmonlees and trying to pump up my team for 3 or four turns. However, on the turn before I would attack, the trainer sends out Arbok or some other pokemon (Many poison types has Haze) and uses Haze. Before I can react or even attack, it's all gone and I've been battered hard for no reward. Getting too greedy with buffs can be an issue! AB: Can pokemon trainers aside from Renny, Charlotte and Pierce use the same upgrades they can? Like can Dominic use Divide or can Moon use Focus and that sort of thing? Are the foes capable of doing the same? __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 04-28-2010 at 01:36 PM.