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Unread 08-16-2010, 12:26 PM   #94
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Gem, I'm reading over the negotiation and the deals therein between you and "everyone" although mainly Drac, and you're saying that everyone benefits out of this. For me, I'm not quite seeing that. From what I'm seeing...

A: Impact stops being leader: I didn't care so much either way, especially since my deal in the first place was to support you initially for leader. It basically just means you're freeing me from something I agreed to in the first place. You also didn't answer my question about whether you/Impact would keep to his promise of helping Renny with Lola and the afforded protection therein... or if that would be null and voided too, which would make that entire thing a negative since you had your chance of being leader which means I did my part with Renny supporting Impact but not getting anything back and thus not holding up your part of the former deal.

B: Charlotte will be leader: Once again, not totally enthuasiatic about it, but no actual complaints roleplaying wise or OOC, since it more or less doesn't involve Renny or myself. Bard seems to benefit lots from this, unless he's secretly wishing that someone else wants to be leader.

C: Drac gets to lose his owing you a favor and is sure to be next leader if Charlotte loses leader status. No issues, but once again not involving me. Overall plus for Drac in my view.

D: Toughening up how we deal with techniques and powers and such, with all standards organized by you. Which was something we have contested with majorly as this gives you an awful lot of power for something that influences all the other players, and for something I feel should be dealt with on an individual basis and on the basis of the characters and the only sole power being the GM. This is basically a big negative for me initially as well as the others if it turns out our worries were justified in the end.

E: Dante seems to have no vocal opinionschords either way. He either finds it beneficial or neutrally acceptable and doesn't care to ask for something that'll suit him.



So as it stands, the deal is unfavorable. The major cruxes of the deal from what I see is the transfer of leadership and the re-organization of rules/powers.
That Charlotte is leader is specifying the end result of a cause and effect of what happens when you leave as leader, since there has to be a new leader or the group ends up being a senate or some other democratic system that is impossible to use feasibly in combat situations. While you do more or less intend to stay in power to some extent in some other way, you have a hand in choosing the leader by choosing Charlotte (which doesn't seem to effect anyone really negatively, but is a bonus for you since you more or less dislike or hate the other candidates for leader)
The toughening of rules and standards using your measuring stick is a risky addition to the deal, but is cruical since this is the major reason why you're willing to depart from being leader in the first place. Of course, giving you this sort of power has set off a lot of alarms. So you had to reassure us by specifying your policy and/or giving deals to make the entire offer seem platable.

Charlotte gets leadership and thus the chance to really run wild. That and Bard doesn't seem to personally object too much. It seems that Bard is fine more or less with the deal then.

Dante as mentioned above doesn't seem to care too much either way, although technically the deal is still disadvantagous for him since you're holding sway over powers and abilities that really belong to his character.

Drac had issues with your agreement, so that's where you went into negotiation phase and basically worked out that he would be next leader and his favor forgotten. This basically is a token of good faith that he'll still benefit and thrive even when giving you a larger role in handling how his character is able to develop.


I however am stuck in negative because the transfer of leadership really does almost nothing for me, so what is left is what you have to say about your policy for how game-balance would be moderated, which is a lot of power to give to someone who is actually an active player and not a GM. It is no secret that I tend to be more liberal in giving myself and other people strong stuff while you seem to have a more conservative history of wanting to balance it out to fit a certain invisible level, normally lowering it in the process (not trying to demonize you since you have made concessions before). Since the two of us are more or less opposites and see character abilities in different ways, both as the individual as well as in a group setting, things are more or less at an impasse. In order for me to more or less accept the proposed deal, you would have to...

A: Be more specific on how this would work so we aren't under any false impression or misunderstandings on what everyone's expections are (have some sort of policy made for us to check out or something?) You said you'll write it up in a bit, so I look forward to seeing the finished result.

B: Offer me something (negotiate) that'll somehow result in making me feel that somehow I can trust that you won't suddenly yank the chain when we propose something critical about our character. Much the same thing you did with Drac, making someone feel easier about trusting you with something quite game-changing.

C: Maybe some sort of leeway involved if character development related things are addressed in advance, so that any percieved character concepts or ability can be worked out smoothly. For example, let's pretend I eventually wanted Renny to be able to send more than 2 pokemons out at a time (maybe taking up slots of other NPC trainers if none of their pokemons are suitable for the situation) as an example of power through friendship, teamwork, numbers and diversity. Let's say that I intend to maximize the potential of such an ability by taking the Snagger class (so I can have a larger size of maximum pokemons I can carry with me and thus a larger diverse pool of elements and techniques to choose from). I would be OUTRAGED if I took the snagger class in antipication of one day getting that ability when I reach the right level, only to have it rejected utterly when proposed and thus making the levels wasted.


Phew, that was a long rant. Excuse me if I poorly explained or misrepresented your position. Still tired from an entire day of flying. (Also forgive me for stating this now, but not only was I busy on vacation, but you were already busy with Drac and I didn't want to complicate things by throwing everything I just said in the middle of it.)

Anyhow, looking forward to what you got to say.

Last edited by Menarker; 08-16-2010 at 01:22 PM. Reason: grammer
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