[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Menarker

First thing that came to mind was my overall confusion about whether Trainer Attacks had given us when we used it or not (I thought it was not since that was what the upgrade page said). Then it struck me... If you guys (Pierce and Charlotte) were getting rage from trainer attacking all this time, then I was never getting rage during those times (since Renny doesn't use Trainer Attack). And if that is the case, then I wonder how/why the hell you guys were ragging on me with Togekiss's rage gathering item since you guys were getting free rage every turn!

We can't spam Trainer Attack to get 30 Rage in one turn.

Renny, on the other hand, can have Togekiss use Follow Me. Sure, you'll say Renny would never do that, but it's entirely possibly to come up with some bullshit justification like "oh, Renny doesn't think Togekiss will get knocked out" or "but Togekiss is really really durable" or some shit.

Basically, Menarker =/= Renny.

Originally Posted by Menarker

On another note, I thought of what Renny's new Trainer Action would be like. I thought of something like this.

Cheerful Back-up: Renny has trained his pokemons to fight effectively in other people's names in their defense, although their spirits remain highest when they fight for him.
Effect: Upon use, when Renny would gain rage for one or both pokemons attacking, that rage can be given to someone else. If neither pokemon does this, Renny gains one additional attack's worth of base rage for himself.

So basically, let's say I have Swampert and Togekiss attack and they both hit their targets. I could have the 5 rage Swampert get goes to the team medic and the 5 rage Togekiss would get could go to Impact or Pierce or so. Or the 10 rage total could go to one person (other than Renny). If no one else is selected for either pokemon, Renny gets 5 free rage. I say "base rage" because that number might rise upon upgrades like Breeder 1. It has utility, but also has a downside that Renny won't get rage from his pokemon attacking if the rage is dedicated to someone else.

Oh, I'm going to let someone else tackle this one.

My preliminary opinion is "sure, why not?"

I'm still thinkin' about Pierce's. I dunno, maybe I'll just have Chizuru do something.

Originally Posted by Menarker

Which brings me up to something that came to mind. How will rage generation boosts work from multiple classes? Let's use my my upgrade plan where I plan to go Breeder 1 and Overdrive 3 as an example. (Please try not to be spiteful. I'm being honest and upfront with you.) As a slayer, Renny would gain 10 rage when attacking. When his pokemons attack, he should supposably be getting 7 rage per pokemon if he has Breeder 1. As an Overblade 1, his base rage generation multiplies by 1.5 times. Does this multiplication work for all rage from attacking or being attacked gained by Renny or only for Overblade related rage?
Mind you, once the character becomes a Battle-Master, their rage generation improves because a slayer practically counts as 2 pokemons when he attacks. Let's say the Battle Master using Pierce's system is Trainer 4 and Slayer 4 (no rage generation boost from upgrades). Since he's fighting alongside one other pokemon at least instead of by himself like Impact has done so far, that's an extra 5 rage. 10 for himself and 5 from the pokemon fighting alongside him. If AB intended that we could fight with both pokemons (3 attackers), then that's an extra 10 rage instead, 10 for the pokemons and 10 for the slayer.

I imagine the extra 7 Rage from Breeder would only apply to Pokemon attacks. I don't know if the x1.5 multiplier would apply only to the Overblade, but I'm thinking it should.

Also, Impact gets exclusive access to Full Demonship. He doesn't get to complain.

Originally Posted by Menarker

EDIT: I already mentioned before that I was thinking of doing much like what Gem suggested and having Pokebrid and Slayer "blend" power somewhat. Basically, that Renny once he gets slayer and pokebrid would use attacking pokemon moves with proportionally the same power as slayers. Such like Aerial Ace or Knock Off having the same effect as normal but the same power as a slayer weapon. I was/am willing to forgo slayer weapons as a sort of balance as well as a roleplaying quirk, since Renny would probably not want to use weapons... although fighting as a pokemon technically isn't much better... but people use funny logic justifying why some weapons are more or less moral than others!

One thing that people might bring up is that Renny might have more elements to attack with in general since his move list determines the elements he has. Hence why I thought giving up slayer weapons was a bit of a fair trade. I mean, some slayer weapons are incredibly awesome. I mean, 50% freeze chance with the ice weapon? Absurd! Most attacking pokemon moves don't have status effects nearly as powerful as slayer weapons!

Meh. If Pierce gets a custom Dragon/Ghost Slave, I don't see why Renny can't forgo Slayer weapons for a power boost to his Pokebrid moves.