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Originally Posted by Magic_Marker

I...

Wah?

Did Token and Premmy get a sex change and start dating?

Is that what the PC thing was about?

yes.

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Does anyone else find the term WASP incredibly racist? Look at it objectively. Like, 3/4th of the definition for it is saying "White dude", and the other part is saying "Protestant". To say, "Dude, all white protestants are X" is -incredibly- short sighted and silly, and just as dumb as saying something about "All those black kids in the ghetto who are all doing crimes".

Well, It's alot better than just "black" or "asian" where you don't even get an ethnic or national identity and a Religious background as indicators.
It's less a broad sweeping term and more a very specific term as indicated by having two other modifiers.

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

No, what I mean is, why's it matter? Like, if they were black gay women, would you go, "What do 1800s black gay women know about anything?" There's no reason that you'd mention it as a factor in their decision making abilities, if you didn't think that it was a factor in their decision making abilities. Regardless, I was mainly against the term in general as opposed to the specific case, because WASP is just used to label a sweepingly broad group as being a certain way, based on skin color and culture, which is the same as any other racist language. The only difference is that it's white protestants that it's labeling, which is okay, apparently?

Edit: I mean, if you can think of a good reason for the term that -isn't- just to sweepingly label people, I'm open to hearing it. But it seems like you'd want to rail against it the same way that you'd rail against people saying, "The ghetto rap music", and such.

People can only act from their own experiences(well the can only act/speak from their own experiences accurately and honestly anyways.) When said group is not only NOT everyone, which should be obvious, but also from the majority in power they can only have second-hand information concerning what is important/relevant/needed for/to everyone else.

A White guy who is a Protestant Christian of Anglo-Saxon descent doesn't know what it's like to be a Lesbian of African descent. You put five of said white guys in a room and they STILL won't know unless a Lesbian of African Descent was involved on some level. If forced to take other groups into consideration when acting, they will pull things out of their asses.

Now, you could go out of your way to keep black lesbians as uninvolved as possible in things and just have White Protestant Christian Males of Anglo-saxxon descent who happen to be experts in African-American Lesbianology be your reference dude but why in the ever-loving fuck would you do that when you could just be sure to involve more than just white dudes all the time in everything?

People have unique experiences and when what one group experiences is so skewed the way it has historically been this has to be taken into consideration when doing things like forming a country/business/group f almost any kind.