Ok, I can see where you are coming from with regards to the "deathmillers may be mafia/may not know it/may not be any mafia at all" thing, but
if you read ICs post, he explicitly says there is a mafia, and that the only lieing is being done by roles with the power to change what he says.
He did not say there may or may not be a mafia, like he did for Cult, SK and 5th Unknown party. He never said he'd be lieing about the roles he'd hand out, only that some roles can manipulate what he says. So I find it very hard to believe that me and Ryander are the mafia, because lieing to us outright in our own role pms would just inherently screw us over from the start and make it near impossible for either of us to win, unless it was completely by accident.
I really doubt IC would do that, because it would severely limit our ability to win if we were really the mafia and didn't know it. And if you're assuming he's lied about our 2 roles, then you have to ask yourselves if he's lied about your own. Maybe he's lied about everyone's role then, and what kind of clusterfuck game would that make? I know that doesn't make any sense for him to do, but it makes as much sense as him lieing to the mafia about what they are so they are immediately handicapped for the entire game.