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Unread 09-15-2013, 01:30 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Mr.Bookworm View Post

1) The bugs. Ye gods. I know I said Obsidian was a bug-riddled mess, but this is maybe the buggiest game of theirs I've played and it's gotten way worse since I hit the Strip. I've crashed a couple of dozen times so far and there was at least one case where all of my saves got stuck on the loading screen.
This seems to be all over the place, some people have tons of problems with it, others have way less. One thing to note is Bethesda did the debugging and QC, so it's actually Bethesda to blame there.

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2) Obsidian fucked up in their portrayal of the Legion, assuming that they're supposed to be presented as a somewhat viable alternative to the NCR. Talking to Caesar, it sounds like the Legion is supposed to be the "ends justify the means" faction.

Buuuut they're not. As you learn more about the Legion, it becomes clear that their entire history is just a long string of atrocities. They are pure evil and unless you're the fucking Joker, there is absolutely no reason to support them, doubly so if you're a women, because the Legion is horrifyingly misogynistic.
I think you're kinda right here. I think they did want to make them really evil. But I think they went a bit far in making the perception of them innacurate in game. I think there was a conscious design decision to make it so many NPCs didn't have an accurate view of the Legion for various reasons. One thing here is those who know Caesar personally or who are particularly intelligent (like Arcade) have the lowest opinions of the Legion.
Another example is everyone in the Mojave sees them as this unstoppable savage juggernaut whereas Graham unequivocally says it will implode days after Caesar dies.

But somewhere along the way I think they screwed up how they presented this idea that the perception of the Legion in the Mojave is inaccurate, and that many NPCs have flat out wrong opinions on things. So instead of coming off as flat out evil but poorly understood due to the political climate in the area, they come off as something the devs wanted you to consider reasonable.


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3) Is it just me, or is Honest Hearts pretty racist? When I was presented with the situation at hand at the beginning of the game, I was expecting some sort of discussion or deconstruction of the elements involved. But, no, it's pretty much just two white Christian dudes leading a group of noble savages against a group of evil savages. You even go a fucking vision quest. It's pretty .
I pretty much agree. I think they fucked up a fair bit with HH. You're right the Survivalist was amazing though. It's by far the weakest DLC, the other 3 are spectacular though.

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11) The railroading that goes on in the first half of the game is kind of annoying. You're forced into a rough U-shape by the game and it only starts to open up a bit by the time you hit Novac.
Yeah they don't, there's plenty of other ways to go they're just harder. The railroading should only really be there the first game once you understand the mechanics taking alternate paths shouldn't be a hassle.
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