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Unread 11-04-2009, 02:46 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Ryanderman
3) Bleeding Heart Liberal is an appropriate term, sure. But the idea that Conservatives, because they aren't Liberals, are cold, callus, and arrogant is a horribly naive misconception.
My point was that "bleeding heart" is an example of something that wouldn't see use to the degree that it does (or that it wouldn't exist at all) if the view you present of the "conservative" relationship to poverty and such was accurate: if "conservative" opposition to any redistribution of wealth and social net was just something that comes out of a specific pragmatic concern for the place of government (which is ludicrous in itself in context but that's something else.)

The "ideology of wealth" that permeates the United States and runs counter to the idea of the state of the discourse on these matters in the United States is driven on the "Conservative side" by pure philosophical principles (just because they're are sometimes presented as presentable rethoric) doesn't need further demonstrating. Welfare didn't make itself a dirty word.

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My language is the language of historians talking about science.
You should specify that it's the language of people who hold that history is just whatever bullshit stories that they managed to spin, as you've represented historians as doing before.

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