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Unread 12-13-2009, 11:17 PM   #1
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Default The Princess and the Frog

There's been a lot of talk about Disney's new movie, what with it being the first delve back into 2D and Princess-formula in years, Enchanted notwithstanding.

Though there's been a lot of drama about being racist with black characters, not to mention the feminist rage over the whole princess archetype, I thought that this movie was very enjoyable. People are going to find problems with it, as they always do, but I overall thought it was well played. They did a pretty good job of countering the expected stereotypes and unfortunate implications, overall making a movie with a lot of nice messages.

The movie itself was a lot of fun. There were characters I expected to be annoying that turned out endearing, such as Ray and Christine, and Dr. Facilier was a brilliant villain, though there wasn't nearly enough of him. The songs in the movie were catchy and fun, though not as brilliant as some of Disney's past work.

Overall, I recommend it for anyone who's curious.
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Unread 12-13-2009, 11:28 PM   #2
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Two words: Doctor Facilier.

You know what else is two words? Keith motherfuckin' David. That's what.
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Unread 12-13-2009, 11:46 PM   #3
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actually looks good, though I'll wait for the inevitable TV release, no money for movies
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Unread 12-14-2009, 12:30 AM   #4
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Default Villain looks pretty rad. Reminds me of Rasputin and Jafar a bit.

I really want to watch this, but my local theater sucks and doesn't have it. I'll probably have no choice but to wait for the DVD release.
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Unread 12-14-2009, 01:16 PM   #5
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Wasn't this supposed to overturn years of racial prejudice and bring us into a new age of enlightened peace and harmony? Possibly by traveling back in time and retroactively erasing slavery and segregation from existence through a wormhole?

Having "nice messages" just doesn't cut it with the massive amount of news coverage this movie received. Disney has failed again at unilaterally altering our national conscious through space/time.
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Unread 12-14-2009, 01:22 PM   #6
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I went and saw it over the weekend with my girlfriend. It was quite enjoyable though I wish the main villain had more screen time. I had feared that Disney had forgotten how to make fun animated movies and it was good to see I was wrong.

As far as the characters go I was impressed with almost the whole cast. Even the Cajun Firefly who I was sure was going to be stupid comic relief actually turned out to be one of the most endearing characters of the movie.

The songs were not as strong as other Disney classics but even now I still have the Shadow Man's "I've got friends on the other side" stuck in my head.
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Unread 12-15-2009, 10:28 PM   #7
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Sounds like something I'd want to see. They got Keith David, so it's gotta be awesome.
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Unread 12-15-2009, 10:37 PM   #8
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Maybe I'm just being cynical, but no matter how good the actual movie is, I can't help but think the entire thing came out of some corporate suit's attempt at "equality" by making a black princess.

That said, I'll probably end up seeing it.
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Unread 12-15-2009, 11:21 PM   #9
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Frogs->swamps->Louisiana->Voodoo(*eyeroll*)->brown people.
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Unread 12-15-2009, 11:33 PM   #10
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Frogs->swamps->Louisiana->Voodoo(*eyeroll*)->brown people.
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I don't know if the plot was going to be the same as it is now, but I originally heard that one of the lead characters was going to be white, and that became a big deal about how white guys/girls apparently weren't good enough. I'm not saying that there isn't necessarily racism in this show, but I haven't seen it, and I'm going to wager you haven't seen it, so judging it based on what little you do know of it seems a bit unfair. I'm going to give it them the benefit of the doubt and say that the African-European characters are that way because they're trying to make up for not having black characters in their shows beforehand, and not because Voodoo=Black People.

In fact, the thought process, though this is still a fairly racist train of thought on their part, was probably more something like this: Black People -> Louisiana -> Voodoo -> PROFIT.
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