Announcement #Whatever: Speeding is Safe?

Aldurin · 03-24-2010, 05:45 PM

I have to say that Brian is on to something here . . . my only problem is that the gas mileage might not be good.

Discuss or something.

Meister · 03-24-2010, 05:56 PM

Counterargument: if your car is parked in Spot A for two hours there is a chance it may at some point within those two hours occupy the same space another car occupies, true. But if your car moves from A to B for two hours: granted this is just high school geometry, but I distincly remember that a line is made up of an infinite number of points, and thus your car will occupy an infinite number of points in the timespan of two hours. Assuming that for every point there's the same probability of a non-your car attempting to occupy it at some point within those two hours, the chance of your car colliding with a non-your car is exactly that probability as long as it's stationary, but if you move it it's that probability times infinite.

it's a miracle anyone ever gets somewhere at all, really.

Green Spanner · 03-24-2010, 06:03 PM

All these problems would be moot had we been given our flying cars LIKE WE WE WERE PROMISED!

Or maybe pogo-boots.

Meister · 03-24-2010, 06:10 PM

You'd have cars moving in a three-dimensional space. If a simple line has infinite points, just imagine how many more a 3D space must have, and how many opportunities for crashing that represents! I cannot support this madness.

No, the only way to be safe is to have only one car for the planet and a really good sharing plan.

Green Spanner · 03-24-2010, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meister

You'd have cars moving in a three-dimensional space. If a simple line has infinite points, just imagine how many more a 3D space must have, and how many opportunities for crashing that represents! I cannot support this madness.

No, the only way to be safe is to have only one car for the planet and a really good sharing plan.

Why not one flying car?

A really big flying car that can fit everybody in the world in it.

THERE IS LITERALLY NO DOWNSIDE TO THIS PLAN.

Aldurin · 03-25-2010, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Spanner

Why not one flying car?

A really big flying car that can fit everybody in the world in it.

THERE IS LITERALLY NO DOWNSIDE TO THIS PLAN.

Not even if some terrorists hijacked it and crashed it into the pyramids and killed everyone in the world, because our international coordination and defenses are too good to let that happen.

Melfice · 03-25-2010, 06:31 AM

You know, maybe we all should chip in and have Brian visit Germany some time.
Have him drive across the Autobahn.

I never have, nor will I in the foreseeable future, but I understand that this is a highly unnerving experience for somebody who never has done so before.
That said, maybe Brian is just such an awesome driver he has no problem with it, but y'know.

Meister · 03-25-2010, 06:50 AM

Driving across the Autobahn does sound like a very unnerving experience indeed.

Aldurin · 03-25-2010, 09:38 AM

Since this theory still has merit, I'll go ahead and test it out using one of my simulacra. That way none of you has to end up painting half a mile of a highway red.

Amake · 03-25-2010, 09:48 AM

Other counter-argument: Space and time are relative to each other. The space your vehicle occupies at any given time increases proportional to its velocity. Picture, if you will, a car moving at a relativistic* 50 m/h for one hour: If seen as a four-dimensional construct it becomes a kind of worm on wheels, stretching fifty miles. The likelihood of it intersecting with another car becomes enormous, and only returns to the apparent base value given by the size of the car when we remember that we do not in fact perceive time in four dimensions.

Better to trust in simple statistics. For example, almost no collisions occur at speeds exceeding 200 m/h. It must therefore be a safe speed.

*In the sense that all speeds are relativistic.

03-24-2010, 05:45 PM	#1
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	Announcement #Whatever: Speeding is Safe? I have to say that Brian is on to something here . . . my only problem is that the gas mileage might not be good. Discuss or something.

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03-25-2010, 09:48 AM	#10
Amake Keeper of the new Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A place without judgment Posts: 4,506	Other counter-argument: Space and time are relative to each other. The space your vehicle occupies at any given time increases proportional to its velocity. Picture, if you will, a car moving at a relativistic* 50 m/h for one hour: If seen as a four-dimensional construct it becomes a kind of worm on wheels, stretching fifty miles. The likelihood of it intersecting with another car becomes enormous, and only returns to the apparent base value given by the size of the car when we remember that we do not in fact perceive time in four dimensions. Better to trust in simple statistics. For example, almost no collisions occur at speeds exceeding 200 m/h. It must therefore be a safe speed. In the sense that all speeds are relativistic. __________________ Hope insistent, trust implicit, love inherent, life immersed*

03-24-2010, 05:56 PM	#2
Meister Pure joy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 10,689	Counterargument: if your car is parked in Spot A for two hours there is a chance it may at some point within those two hours occupy the same space another car occupies, true. But if your car moves from A to B for two hours: granted this is just high school geometry, but I distincly remember that a line is made up of an infinite number of points, and thus your car will occupy an infinite number of points in the timespan of two hours. Assuming that for every point there's the same probability of a non-your car attempting to occupy it at some point within those two hours, the chance of your car colliding with a non-your car is exactly that probability as long as it's stationary, but if you move it it's that probability times infinite. it's a miracle anyone ever gets somewhere at all, really.

03-24-2010, 06:10 PM	#4
Meister Pure joy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 10,689	You'd have cars moving in a three-dimensional space. If a simple line has infinite points, just imagine how many more a 3D space must have, and how many opportunities for crashing that represents! I cannot support this madness. No, the only way to be safe is to have only one car for the planet and a really good sharing plan.

03-25-2010, 06:31 AM	#7
Melfice Vigilo - Confido Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,846	You know, maybe we all should chip in and have Brian visit Germany some time. Have him drive across the Autobahn. I never have, nor will I in the foreseeable future, but I understand that this is a highly unnerving experience for somebody who never has done so before. That said, maybe Brian is just such an awesome driver he has no problem with it, but y'know.

03-25-2010, 06:50 AM	#8
Meister Pure joy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 10,689	Driving across the Autobahn does sound like a very unnerving experience indeed.

03-25-2010, 09:38 AM	#9
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	Since this theory still has merit, I'll go ahead and test it out using one of my simulacra. That way none of you has to end up painting half a mile of a highway red.