"The PC Gaming Idustry Is Biased Toward Gamepad Gamers!" or "Mouse vs. Otherwise"

Seil · 07-16-2011, 01:42 AM

So here's the thing: I like videogames. They're my fun. I work in a good (the boss is easy going, the pay is nice) but shitty (customers) customer service gig. I guess I should be happy that I have a job, (I am) but customers really, honestly suck. If you're a customer, if you've bought something today: I hate you.

Anyway, like I said, games are fun. That (aside from the hooch) is what I have for release. Steam is great for that (when download times are higher than 15B/s) (I really like the whole bracket thing, can you tell?) So after everyone left TF2 tonight, I played a little Half Life 2. I noticed that the thing had a "Gamepad Enabled" button, and I was like "Immuna enable the shit outta that!" Because I'm a console gamer. Really the only reason I game online is because I have you "fine" people to play with. All my other games - Mirrors Edge, Killzone, Silent Hill, Metal Gear Solid, what have you, I play via PS3. And the PS3 controller really is the shit.

Pictured: The Shit.

I have a pink one. (Of course I do, you think I wouldn't?!) It works great! The stuff I play - obviously, because according to The Angry Nintendo Nerd - the most important thing is to be able to play your game. (Excerpt from the review where he swears a bunch) For my PC gaming, I bought a Logitech something or other. I like Logitech because they're cool - they made my first joystick. Anyway, long story... well, it's still pretty long, I tried to play Half Life 2 via my Logitech game pad. And it wasn't that good. ...It was pretty shit, to say the least. It was an interesting experiment, but it wasn't the best "input method." Suffice to say, Valve is discriminating against PC gamepad users.

That (and it is a really long "that,") the gamepad is useful for other things, like my illegal emulators and roms. Like my Duke Nukem 1 & 2s. Like Jazz Jackrabbit. (God damn Jazz is awesome.) But modern day game makers have a bias against gamepad gamers.

Premmy · 07-16-2011, 01:50 AM

Did you properly map your buttons or just "inable the shit outta" it? because this might just be you improperly setting up your controller.
Edit:
And it's "Biased Against" not towards

Seil · 07-16-2011, 01:51 AM

I fiddled around with the sensitivty of the analog sticks, but the button mapping was pretty solid. (I was impressed with the foresight.) (In hindsight, the mapping was what they had on the PS3 controller.)

Aerozord · 07-16-2011, 02:03 AM

for me its normally what you play. For the most part FPS are better with keyboard and mouse, and I wont even touch a RTS with a gamepad. Though sucks if you ever need to do any platforming.

Being said, restricting movement to 8 directions and removing my ability to continually turn around does still suck. Keyboard is about equal to an old school d-pad, but dual analog has its perks

akaSM · 07-16-2011, 02:53 AM

I herd you liek your PS3 controller.

With that you can use it to play PC stuff. Also, you can map buttons to keys and mouse buttons and stuff. You can use both USB and Bluetooth (for bluetooth you'll need an EXTRA adapter though, it pretty much takes over 1 adaptor).

And, hey, you know those gamepad enabled games that only support the X360 gamepad? Haven't you thought "Fuck them", I want to use any other controller"?, with that program you can use your PS3 controller to emulate a X360 gamepad.

Osterbaum · 07-16-2011, 03:40 AM

He doesn't like PS3 controller. He likes The Shit.

Sifright · 07-16-2011, 03:42 AM

Yea Keyboard and mouse is almost ALWAYS going to be a better input method no matter how you setup your controller.

greed · 07-16-2011, 03:50 AM

Well not for platformers and shit. Then it's controllers all the way. Fighting games as well (though special arcade pads are better again I understand).

Sifright · 07-16-2011, 03:54 AM

I dunno about that, platformers can be played only on the keyboard with no difficulty it's not like you don't have access to enough buttons and there is more than enough space for both hands on the keyboard. you just a case of mapping it correctly.

Edit: Plus I did say almost always, I'll admit there are some type of games where it isn't flat out better.

Krylo · 07-16-2011, 03:57 AM

Platformers are way easier with a controller 'cause of the whole no typo, faster button pressing, blah blah blah thing.

I can't stand playing platformers with a keyboard. It makes me want to murder things.

Luckily I have that ps3 controller thing* linked earlier, and can use that for any games that seem to work better with controllers.

*Might be different thing. Didn't check the link. Does the same stuff, though.

07-16-2011, 01:42 AM	#1
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	"The PC Gaming Idustry Is Biased Toward Gamepad Gamers!" or "Mouse vs. Otherwise" So here's the thing: I like videogames. They're my fun. I work in a good (the boss is easy going, the pay is nice) but shitty (customers) customer service gig. I guess I should be happy that I have a job, (I am) but customers really, honestly suck. If you're a customer, if you've bought something today: I hate you. Anyway, like I said, games are fun. That (aside from the hooch) is what I have for release. Steam is great for that (when download times are higher than 15B/s) (I really like the whole bracket thing, can you tell?) So after everyone left TF2 tonight, I played a little Half Life 2. I noticed that the thing had a "Gamepad Enabled" button, and I was like "Immuna enable the shit outta that!" Because I'm a console gamer. Really the only reason I game online is because I have you "fine" people to play with. All my other games - Mirrors Edge, Killzone, Silent Hill, Metal Gear Solid, what have you, I play via PS3. And the PS3 controller really is the shit. Pictured: The Shit. I have a pink one. (Of course I do, you think I wouldn't?!) It works great! The stuff I play - obviously, because according to The Angry Nintendo Nerd - the most important thing is to be able to play your game. (Excerpt from the review where he swears a bunch) For my PC gaming, I bought a Logitech something or other. I like Logitech because they're cool - they made my first joystick. Anyway, long story... well, it's still pretty long, I tried to play Half Life 2 via my Logitech game pad. And it wasn't that good. ...It was pretty shit, to say the least. It was an interesting experiment, but it wasn't the best "input method." Suffice to say, Valve is discriminating against PC gamepad users. That (and it is a really long "that,") the gamepad is useful for other things, like my illegal emulators and roms. Like my Duke Nukem 1 & 2s. Like Jazz Jackrabbit. (God damn Jazz is awesome.) But modern day game makers have a bias against gamepad gamers. Last edited by Seil; 07-16-2011 at 01:54 AM.

07-16-2011, 01:50 AM	#2
Premmy Stop the hate Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a nice web on fifty first street Posts: 4,466	Did you properly map your buttons or just "inable the shit outta" it? because this might just be you improperly setting up your controller. Edit: And it's "Biased Against" not towards __________________ Drank

07-16-2011, 01:51 AM	#3
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	Too Late To Change It I fiddled around with the sensitivty of the analog sticks, but the button mapping was pretty solid. (I was impressed with the foresight.) (In hindsight, the mapping was what they had on the PS3 controller.) Last edited by Seil; 07-16-2011 at 02:10 AM.

07-16-2011, 02:03 AM	#4
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	for me its normally what you play. For the most part FPS are better with keyboard and mouse, and I wont even touch a RTS with a gamepad. Though sucks if you ever need to do any platforming. Being said, restricting movement to 8 directions and removing my ability to continually turn around does still suck. Keyboard is about equal to an old school d-pad, but dual analog has its perks __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

07-16-2011, 03:40 AM	#6
Osterbaum The revolution will be memed! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: FIN Posts: 5,967	He doesn't like PS3 controller. He likes The Shit. __________________ D is for Dirty Commie!

07-16-2011, 03:42 AM	#7
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	Yea Keyboard and mouse is almost ALWAYS going to be a better input method no matter how you setup your controller.

07-16-2011, 03:54 AM	#9
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	I dunno about that, platformers can be played only on the keyboard with no difficulty it's not like you don't have access to enough buttons and there is more than enough space for both hands on the keyboard. you just a case of mapping it correctly. Edit: Plus I did say almost always, I'll admit there are some type of games where it isn't flat out better.

07-16-2011, 03:57 AM	#10
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Platformers are way easier with a controller 'cause of the whole no typo, faster button pressing, blah blah blah thing. I can't stand playing platformers with a keyboard. It makes me want to murder things. Luckily I have that ps3 controller thing* linked earlier, and can use that for any games that seem to work better with controllers. Might be different thing. Didn't check the link. Does the same stuff, though. __________________ I am very tired.*