"Star Wars Vidjyagames!" or "Seperating The Wheat From The Chaff"

Seil · 03-14-2013, 07:30 PM

I'm always late to the party. For the most part, I've always had next door neighbors who have owned SNES', or Genis... Genesii... Geniseses. I remember that even in the days of the Atari. But the only thing that we ever had was a Commadore that was handed down from a family friend that only played Parsec. (For those of you who want to play that right now, here's a cheap clone.) I didn't have video games of my own until I bought my own GBA. I earned $70 for painting a friend's fence. The next time I was in town, I immediately went to a thrift store to see how I could spend it, and someone had recently dropped of a GBA.

The point I'm trying to make here is that I was, and still am, never really on the ball with video games. My older favorites are still Quest For Glory V, Descent, Third Courier... and only in the last few years is it that I've stepped into the future: Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic.

Yeah. But it's great. I messed around with it two years ago (because everyone claimed it was one of the best games of the last console generation.) and I loved it. I was always a little disappointed, though, because I couldn't find Knights Of The Old Republic 2 on Steam. Recently, I got a new laptop, and had to re-install everything via a terrible internet connection and Steam, and as I was looking through the games that I thought would be worth a re-download, I found KOTOR. I thought, 'That might be fun.' So now I'm hooked on Star Wars again, listening to this on endless repeat:

and I recently found out that Steam has released KOTOR2 on Steam. ...And wow, is it not as great as the first one was. The swoop races are all wrong. They're all wrong and now I'm a broke ass Jedi. And where are all these new Force powers coming from? At least I still have my T4 droid, that dude is rad.

While I was checking out the list of Star Wars games on Steam, I noticed that there are... well, there's a lot of Star Wars games on Steam. Which ones are worth my $5?

Flarecobra · 03-14-2013, 07:38 PM

The Jedi Knight series wasn't too bad... though I have not played them myself sadly. Empire At War is also pretty fun if you're into RTS games.

POS Industries · 03-14-2013, 08:41 PM

Seil, please be advised that we have a video game subforum that I keep having to move your video game threads into because you're not putting them there.

Also please be advised that, if you like KOTOR, you'll probably hate SWTOR. Also you'll hate it if you like Star Wars in general. Or if you like video games at all. Or are a fan of competent business practices.

The voice acting isn't too bad, though.

**Revising Ocelot** · 03-14-2013, 09:02 PM

KOTOR 2 was inherently broken thanks to Obsidian getting screwed over by LucasArts (have they ever not been screwed over?), but I hear there's a complete mod overhaul that fixes up the broken stuff and makes it the superior game to KOTOR 1.

There's a RPS article that describes the process here.

I never played KOTOR 2. I have vague memories of KOTOR 1, but I can't for the life of me remember what I played it on and when. I recall HK-47 mentioning a 2% chance that a Jawa wished to be blasted by him.

Other than that I played Battlefront 2. Was great fun in multiplayer, especially since the people I was "friends" with at the time would tolerate other modes than the Mos Eisley lightsaber-fest.

Azisien · 03-14-2013, 09:19 PM

KOTOR 2 can be juiced up with mods, it's good.

Battlefront II was fun back in the day, but I do not think it aged all that well. That logic might apply to Jedi Academy too, but damn, I am not playing Jedi Academy again because I don't want the cold, hard fist of reality to ruin my wonderful, rose-tinted nostalgia of the lightsaber fights I used to have in that game.

Empire at War Gold is a solid, pretty large scale RTS. Nothing too special, but if you like building up big armies and moving them around and playing RTS to Star Wars music with Star Wars units, it's a great choice, probably the best.

I never played the Force Unleashed games. Popular opinion seems to be, first one was playable bordering decent, second was mostly crap.

Seil · 03-14-2013, 09:25 PM

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Also please be advised that, if you like KOTOR, you'll probably hate SWTOR. Also you'll hate it if you like Star Wars in general. Or if you like video games at all. Or are a fan of competent business practices.

I'm sorry for posting in the wrong subforum.

The Steam SW game list goes like this. I'm more interested to know about the older games rather than the newer games because while The Force Unleashed looks okay, and SWTOR looks to be worth a look, (or not) the older ones would bring a wave of 90's era nostalgia. If my computer would play them. What are the problems with The Old Republic?

The main problems with KOTOR 2 versus it's predecessor are that they've changed the interface. I understand that it's a new game, they can't keep the same plot or characters, they have to change the framing device - the neat and organized planet to planet travel system that worked so well, and there's got to be a bit of a graphics overhaul. But KOTOR 1 had a solid interface - the menu system was easy to understand, easy to look through... now that they've changed it, it just seems really cluttered. I can't just "use" a medpac, I have to "select" the medpac and then click on my character's portrait.

Oh, for the days of Star Wars FPS':

EDIT: I will have to learn how to use mods to buff my Steam games. Or how to use mods at all.

Azisien · 03-14-2013, 09:36 PM

Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy are both excellent games.

But they pale in comparison to...

Ramary · 03-14-2013, 09:46 PM

Jedi Outcast/Academy are some of my favorite games ever (Fun Fact: I met Karesh from a "fight club" group on Academy)

Battlefront 2 is pretty awesome, even with bots. Online is pretty dead now though

KOTOR is good, KOTOR 2 is an unfinished game that is somehow better then 1 anyway, SWTOR is the Bane of Man, and an absolutely terrible F2P game, if you must play it, play an imperial agent.

Empire at War is half a great game (space combat) half a meh game (land combat).

Republic Commando is better then you would think, but it is a tad aged now.

Lego Star Wars is actually pretty awesome, good gameplay and humor.

TFU 1 is alright, TFU 2 is shit.

That is the steam games plus TOR, if you want to know about any other Star Wars game, ask me, I played almost all of them.

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Originally Posted by Seil

EDIT: I will have to learn how to use mods to buff my Steam games. Or how to use mods at all.

Depends on the game, but it is usually "Put this file in this folder". Most mods come with readme.txt files. Your Steam games are usually in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common.

CABAL49 · 03-14-2013, 09:57 PM

I thought the swoop races in KOTOR 2 were easier. Granted I did use the classic glitch towards the end that allowed you to beat every race in a second.

Seil · 03-14-2013, 10:03 PM

I don't know about any glitch, but every race seems pretty choppy (might have something to do with the video card in my laptop), the new jump mechanic is a little difficult on a track you don't know well, and there's a lot of visual distraction on the first track you play. Add that to the fact that I couldn't find one person to tell me the new controls...

03-14-2013, 07:30 PM	#1
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	"Star Wars Vidjyagames!" or "Seperating The Wheat From The Chaff" I'm always late to the party. For the most part, I've always had next door neighbors who have owned SNES', or Genis... Genesii... Geniseses. I remember that even in the days of the Atari. But the only thing that we ever had was a Commadore that was handed down from a family friend that only played Parsec. (For those of you who want to play that right now, here's a cheap clone.) I didn't have video games of my own until I bought my own GBA. I earned $70 for painting a friend's fence. The next time I was in town, I immediately went to a thrift store to see how I could spend it, and someone had recently dropped of a GBA. The point I'm trying to make here is that I was, and still am, never really on the ball with video games. My older favorites are still Quest For Glory V, Descent, Third Courier... and only in the last few years is it that I've stepped into the future: Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic. Yeah. But it's great. I messed around with it two years ago (because everyone claimed it was one of the best games of the last console generation.) and I loved it. I was always a little disappointed, though, because I couldn't find Knights Of The Old Republic 2 on Steam. Recently, I got a new laptop, and had to re-install everything via a terrible internet connection and Steam, and as I was looking through the games that I thought would be worth a re-download, I found KOTOR. I thought, 'That might be fun.' So now I'm hooked on Star Wars again, listening to this on endless repeat: and I recently found out that Steam has released KOTOR2 on Steam. ...And wow, is it not as great as the first one was. The swoop races are all wrong. They're all wrong and now I'm a broke ass Jedi. And where are all these new Force powers coming from? At least I still have my T4 droid, that dude is rad. While I was checking out the list of Star Wars games on Steam, I noticed that there are... well, there's a lot of Star Wars games on Steam. Which ones are worth my $5?

03-14-2013, 07:38 PM	#2
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	The Jedi Knight series wasn't too bad... though I have not played them myself sadly. Empire At War is also pretty fun if you're into RTS games. __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them.

03-14-2013, 08:41 PM	#3
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Seil, please be advised that we have a video game subforum that I keep having to move your video game threads into because you're not putting them there. Also please be advised that, if you like KOTOR, you'll probably hate SWTOR. Also you'll hate it if you like Star Wars in general. Or if you like video games at all. Or are a fan of competent business practices. The voice acting isn't too bad, though. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

03-14-2013, 09:02 PM	#4
Revising Ocelot Douchebag Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Probably somewhere in England. Posts: 1,897	KOTOR 2 was inherently broken thanks to Obsidian getting screwed over by LucasArts (have they ever not been screwed over?), but I hear there's a complete mod overhaul that fixes up the broken stuff and makes it the superior game to KOTOR 1. There's a RPS article that describes the process here. I never played KOTOR 2. I have vague memories of KOTOR 1, but I can't for the life of me remember what I played it on and when. I recall HK-47 mentioning a 2% chance that a Jawa wished to be blasted by him. Other than that I played Battlefront 2. Was great fun in multiplayer, especially since the people I was "friends" with at the time would tolerate other modes than the Mos Eisley lightsaber-fest. __________________ magic sucks Last edited by Revising Ocelot; 03-14-2013 at 09:30 PM.

03-14-2013, 09:19 PM	#5
Azisien wat Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,177	KOTOR 2 can be juiced up with mods, it's good. Battlefront II was fun back in the day, but I do not think it aged all that well. That logic might apply to Jedi Academy too, but damn, I am not playing Jedi Academy again because I don't want the cold, hard fist of reality to ruin my wonderful, rose-tinted nostalgia of the lightsaber fights I used to have in that game. Empire at War Gold is a solid, pretty large scale RTS. Nothing too special, but if you like building up big armies and moving them around and playing RTS to Star Wars music with Star Wars units, it's a great choice, probably the best. I never played the Force Unleashed games. Popular opinion seems to be, first one was playable bordering decent, second was mostly crap.

03-14-2013, 09:36 PM	#7
Azisien wat Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,177	Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy are both excellent games. But they pale in comparison to...

03-14-2013, 09:57 PM	#9
CABAL49 Not bad. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Senatus Populusque Americanus Posts: 1,584	I thought the swoop races in KOTOR 2 were easier. Granted I did use the classic glitch towards the end that allowed you to beat every race in a second.

03-14-2013, 10:03 PM	#10
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	I don't know about any glitch, but every race seems pretty choppy (might have something to do with the video card in my laptop), the new jump mechanic is a little difficult on a track you don't know well, and there's a lot of visual distraction on the first track you play. Add that to the fact that I couldn't find one person to tell me the new controls...