Infraction Bullshit

[Kim]

Reason: Extremely blatant spampost.

Do you guys remember when Meister said he wasn't going to mod anymore? I do. Awwww nostalgia...

I mean yeah we've been massively letting things like that slide lately but that's really something you rely on at your own peril, so to speak.

No, that's your responsibility. You're the mod. You're supposed to establish what will and will not be tolerated, not infract members for doing something they have no reason to think they'll be punished for doing. Regardless of what the rules say, if you fail to enforce them, you can't reasonably expect anyone to know that it's suddenly against the rules now. Don't blame us because you can't mod consistently. If you're going to keep enforcing the rule regularly from this point on, then fine. Okay. But if you think Surprise Infractions is the best way to keep people in line then you are out of your fucking mind.

I can't even remember the last time you guys got on someone's case for a thread going off-topic, and when you guys did, you'd usually do it along the lines of a red text warning saying "Hey get back on topic." "NPF: No Attention Span Whatsoever" is not a warning. It's just Meister being snarky and condescending.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by NonCon

Do you guys remember when Meister said he wasn't going to mod anymore? I do. Awwww nostalgia...

Hey remember when it was explicitly stated that he was going to continue modding? I do. Awwww nostalgia...

Originally Posted by Noncon

No, that's your responsibility. You're the mod. You're supposed to establish what will and will not be tolerated,

We do establish that. In the rules.

not infract members for doing something they have no reason to think they'll be punished for doing.

Wrong. It is our interpretation of the rules that matters, not yours.

Regardless of what the rules say, if you fail to enforce them, you can't reasonably expect anyone to know that it's suddenly against the rules now.

The rules do not change without an announcement, regardless of enforcement. What is against the rules is consistent. When the list of things against the rules changes, the public is informed.

Don't blame us because you can't mod consistently.

Don't assume that the rules change when they don't?

If you're going to keep enforcing the rule regularly from this point on, then fine. Okay.

That should go without saying. It is our fault that we haven't been completely consistent, but this is like saying to your dad "Well you haven't told me recently that it's not okay to swipe cookies from the cookie jar and I've done it tons of times without you saying anything so why am I getting in trouble now?"

But if you think Surprise Infractions is the best way to keep people in line then you are out of your fucking mind.

It shouldn't come as a surprise.

I can't even remember the last time you guys got on someone's case for a thread going off-topic, and when you guys did, you'd usually do it along the lines of a red text warning saying "Hey get back on topic." "NPF: No Attention Span Whatsoever" is not a warning.

Meister doesn't use a mod color. And if it's not explicit enough of a warning, it is definitely implicit enough of a hint.

It's just Meister being snarky and condescending.

See: Fifthfiend's entire posting history

[Kim]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Meister doesn't use a mod color. And if it's not explicit enough of a warning, it is definitely implicit enough of a hint.

Fuck no it's not. It is no different from his normal, non-modding douchery, except he's just being a snide jerkass to the forums as a whole rather than Ransoomar or whateverthefuck. That's not goddamn modding. This is kind of the reason people have told him multiple times to get a fucking mod color.

See: Fifthfiend's entire posting histor

Well, if Fifth got fired for that, I expect you and Shiney will talk about what a jerk Meister is and then demote him when he isn't looking?

Hey remember when it was explicitly stated that he was going to continue modding? I do. Awwww nostalgia...

No. No, I don't. In fact, I'm kinda curious as to why he went back.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by NonCon

Fuck no it's not. It is no different from his normal, non-modding douchery, except he's just being a snide jerkass to the forums as a whole rather than Ransoomar or whateverthefuck. That's not goddamn modding. This is kind of the reason people have told him multiple times to get a fucking mod color.

Hey while you're talking about that part of my post why don't you take a look at the rest of it too.


Mod colors are not necessary. I only use one to make it blatantly and bluntly clear that the message is sent. Furthermore, you all should fucking know better than to blatantly spam like that. This isn't an issue of you not breaking the rules and getting called out on it, this is an issue of you thinking that you can break the rules and not get called out on it, which is not the case. Fifthfiend is acting, well, like a total douche lately and you all are following his lead because he's OMGFIFTHFIEND.

Originally Posted by Nightshine

QQ more like you did with your 3 page essay about Duane and BrandO, faggot.

Get the fuck out.

[Fifthfiend]

Yeah no I totally shouldn't have been surprised at getting warned for making a silly joke of a too-serious thread like I've been doing for literally the entire time I've been a member of this forum including pre-admin / pre-mod and nobody has given a shit about ever.

PS Fenris remember when Brian accused you of being a crowd-following douche and I went to bat for you on it and told him that was messed up? Man, real glad I did that, keep the personal insults and incredibly wrong comparisons comin'.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by NonCon

No. No, I don't. In fact, I'm kinda curious as to why he went back.

Well I have to go run because my brother's here and we're going to go catch Iron Man 2 so I don't have time to go find the post but I have a post somewhere explaining that we asked him to.

Originally Posted by Fifth

PS Fenris remember when Brian accused you of being a crowd-following douche and I went to bat for you on it and told him that was messed up? Man, real glad I did that, keep the personal insults and incredibly wrong comparisons comin'.

No, no I don't, actually, but I'll take your word for it.

I'd like to talk to you about this later but as I said gotta go now.

[Loyal]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Well I have to go run because my brother's here and we're going to go catch Iron Man 2 so I don't have time to go find the post but I have a post somewhere explaining that we asked him to.

Here.

To be fair to both sides, the mods in general have been almost worryingly lax lately. I'm not sure if I'm actually making a point with this, but plenty of things have been done that probably should have (but weren't) curtailed and I can see where people might get the wrong impression from that.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Loyal

Here.

I'm not really sure a post like that in a thread that it is completely understandable that I missed counts as "explicitly stated", but okay whatevs.

@Krylo: Yeah, I probably should have handled this far more maturely than I did. Apologies for the unnecessary douchebaggery to Fenris and Meister.

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

No, no I don't, actually, but I'll take your word for it.

IIRC, it was in the Fifth got stealth fired thread.

[Nightshine]

QQ more like you did with your 3 page essay about Duane and BrandO, faggot.

[DFM]

Originally Posted by Nightshine

QQ more like you did with your 3 page essay about Duane and BrandO, faggot.

Oh my