Wait all this math actually means something

Professor Smarmiarty · 08-29-2011, 04:38 AM

So like when we talk about electrons and things we talk about orbitals and stuff and we have all this math to work out where an electron exists around a nuceus and you run the math through your computer and you get all these crazy orbitals and clearly they're not real because nobody has ever seen themm....
bazang
Basically people have made really clear images of atomic orbitals for the first time (we've had murky pictures before but these are realy good). And they look just how we think they should work.

BitVyper · 08-29-2011, 04:52 AM

Yes, but can your math solve for Love?

Mr.Bookworm · 08-29-2011, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BitVyper

Yes, but can your math solve for Love?

u+me=love

shiney · 08-29-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BitVyper

Yes, but can your math solve for Love?

If tennis has taught me anything it's that love = 0. Book it, done, next question.

BitVyper · 08-29-2011, 05:03 AM

Bookworm, what happened in that alley was special, but it's past now.

Nique · 08-29-2011, 05:39 AM

That doesn't look anything like a tiny solar system. This is worse than ~~learning that dinosaurs have feathers~~ everything!

Professor Smarmiarty · 08-29-2011, 05:58 AM

Do they even teach electrons flying around in circles anymore? I'm pretty sure I never was taught that. As soon as we learnt about where electrons are we learnt that they're not big circle things.

Kerensky287 · 08-29-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

Do they even teach electrons flying around in circles anymore? I'm pretty sure I never was taught that. As soon as we learnt about where electrons are we learnt that they're not big circle things.

They taught the circle thing in early high-school, then when I hit Grade 11 or 12 they basically went, "Yeah, all that shit we taught you before? Lies and blasphemy. Forget EVERYTHING."

Like, on the one hand it made sense to use the easier/wrong version just to simplify teaching some of the lower-level chemistry stuff, but on the other, the sheer amount of wasted time and shit that they had to reteach makes me want to gag somebody.

...And once you start thinking of stuff in terms of the little circle orbits, it's really, really hard to shift to the more accurate version.

Nique · 08-29-2011, 06:32 AM

Every diagram of an atom i've ever seen is like a little solar system though if they were actually teaching that this was literal I dunno i was busy looking at pictures of tiny solar systems

Professor Smarmiarty · 08-29-2011, 08:52 AM

Like on tv and shit they use pictures like that for atoms becuase they easy to recognise. But pretty sure they're not in any textbooks anymore even for like high school kids.

Behold the power of chemistry and math:
Iron Man = Fe Male.

08-29-2011, 04:38 AM	#1
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	Wait all this math actually means something So like when we talk about electrons and things we talk about orbitals and stuff and we have all this math to work out where an electron exists around a nuceus and you run the math through your computer and you get all these crazy orbitals and clearly they're not real because nobody has ever seen themm.... bazang Basically people have made really clear images of atomic orbitals for the first time (we've had murky pictures before but these are realy good). And they look just how we think they should work.

08-29-2011, 04:52 AM	#2
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Yes, but can your math solve for Love? __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

08-29-2011, 05:03 AM	#5
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Bookworm, what happened in that alley was special, but it's past now. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

08-29-2011, 05:58 AM	#7
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	Do they even teach electrons flying around in circles anymore? I'm pretty sure I never was taught that. As soon as we learnt about where electrons are we learnt that they're not big circle things.

08-29-2011, 08:52 AM	#10
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	Like on tv and shit they use pictures like that for atoms becuase they easy to recognise. But pretty sure they're not in any textbooks anymore even for like high school kids. Behold the power of chemistry and math: Iron Man = Fe Male.