Final Fantasy X (The Longest Journey)

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Originally Posted by NonCon

So I just found out that Tidus and Zanarkand are apparently a dream being had by the Fayth. I can't decide how I feel about this twist. I think I want to like it, but I'm also pretty sure I think it's really fuckin' dumb.

What is worse, that or the Orphanage scene from FFVIII?

[Krylo]

Nonc: It makes the end about a majillion times better.

Until FFX-2 fucks it up by bringing Tidus back.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Mac

What is worse, that or the Orphanage scene from FFVIII?

Better, since I can kinda get behind it on this whole "Is the me in this world just a dream a butterfly is having?" level, and there is the tiniest, vaguest fraction of foreshadowing.

[Dauntasa]

Originally Posted by NonCon

Better, since I can kinda get behind it on this whole "Is the me in this world just a dream a butterfly is having?" level, and there is the tiniest, vaguest fraction of foreshadowing.

Wait, which are you saying is better? Because X had quite a bit of foreshadowing that something was up about Tidus' version of Zanarkand, whereas the Orphanage scene was basically "Oh hey look all these guys were at the same orphanage but they totally forgot."

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Dauntasa

Wait, which are you saying is better? Because X had quite a bit of foreshadowing that something was up about Tidus' version of Zanarkand, whereas the Orphanage scene was basically "Oh hey look all these guys were at the same orphanage but they totally forgot."

I'm saying X is better. That said, other than Mr. Fayth showing up for no apparent reason early on, what foreshadows the twist?

[Dauntasa]

Originally Posted by NonCon

I'm saying X is better. That said, other than Mr. Fayth showing up for no apparent reason early on, what foreshadows the twist?

Well, it's not really foreshadowed that he is specifically not real, but there are things that point to his Zanarkand not being the real Zanarkand. For one, Tidus has never heard of Summoners when he ends up in Spira, but later it gets mentioned that Zanarkand had summoners. He's also never heard of Bevelle, which was the city that Zanarkand was in a big war with when it was destroyed by Sin. It's been a while since I played last, so that's all I can think of right now, but I'm pretty sure there were other things.

[EVILNess]

Originally Posted by Krylo

What he said about X-2.

Someone didn't stay after the credits in X.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Dauntasa

Well, it's not really foreshadowed that he is specifically not real, but there are things that point to his Zanarkand not being the real Zanarkand. For one, Tidus has never heard of Summoners when he ends up in Spira, but later it gets mentioned that Zanarkand had summoners. He's also never heard of Bevelle, which was the city that Zanarkand was in a big war with when it was destroyed by Sin. It's been a while since I played last, so that's all I can think of right now, but I'm pretty sure there were other things.

That's not the only reason I didn't like the twist, but you make good points. I do wish that more had been done to foreshadow it, and should have, but whatever.

Just beat the battle with Sin while on the airship, aka possibly the worst boss fight in the game. "What? You thought that fighting Sin's arm was kinda boring and took too long? How about you do it ONE MORE TIME!"

[Dauntasa]

Originally Posted by NonCon

Just beat the battle with Sin while on the airship, aka possibly the worst boss fight in the game. "What? You thought that fighting Sin's arm was kinda boring and took too long? How about you do it ONE MORE TIME!"

AND THEN HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE SIN CHARGED HIS OVERDRIVE ALL THE WAY AND NUKED YOU. Yeah, that was pretty dumb.

[Jagos]

Originally Posted by EVILNess

Someone didn't stay after the credits in X.

Square may have made this with intentions of a sequel but I'll be damned if X-2 didn't happen.

They could have left it with the "is he alive or dead" ending and called it a day. Spend some time on FFXI, and keep motoring on. But then FFX-2 came out and, though it's chippy, Kinda took a lot away from what FFX had going for it.