Mass Effect 2

[synkr0nized]

Originally Posted by DFM

Yeah, don't humans have like the smallest fleet in the galaxy? By like, a 1 to 8 ratio?

The treaty only covers dreadnoughts; I do not recall the numbers for frigates. It may be possible that we have many of the smaller vessel types [which are stated as being superior in many fighting conditions anyway] to give Alliance fleets more even standing. Also, as mentioned in that link, events at the end of the first game have likely resulted in the Alliance fleets being at less of a disadvantage and given more concessions for numbers were there restrictions previously.

Still, it was my understanding that the turians, at least, had several battle groups scattered around known Council space for defense and so forth, so I wouldn't consider their fleet to be lacking currently. But I also have not read any in-between-games "official story" yet, so maybe the Alliance fleet is becoming the big dog.


I am pretty sure other races have and use VIs, as not every VI you met in the first game were made to look human.

[stefan]

If I remember correctly the difference between the Human fleet and other fleets is that other fleets are concentrated on bigass battleships. Human fleets on the other hand are focused on shittons of smaller ships working together.

[Aerozord]

and humans know from WWII Germany, that scaling down size of a defeated enemies ships, doesn't limit their ability to make a formidible army. In fact it can, and judging by ME did, have the opposite effect thanks to forcing out of the box thinking

[greed]

There's also that codex that states that one of the council's big fears about humans is that despite having one of the most powerful militaries, we proportionally put far less money and people into our military than anyone other than the Volus (who don't have a military), because unlike everyone else our home planet is still fractured and squabbling. So that old sleeping giant effect. If we ever really organised and put in half as much effort as the Turians, it's possible we would steamroll half the galaxy going "Kekekekekekekeke".


I'm assuming the leader of the Alliance military is a Korean StarCraft player.

[DFM]

Well the Alliance has nothing to do with Sol, officially. I guess they've got that training camp on the moon but that's it if I remember the developer interview correctly.

I assume the Alliance is stronger than like Russia/America/France/All the Earth guys just because it's got more ships and way more resources. Earth probably has a shit ton more people though.

My favorite part about all this is just going from memory and not making two mouse clicks to check my half remembered facts.

[Osterbaum]

I thought that the Alliance was sort of the official representative of all the nations back on Earth.

[DFM]

It is, but it's its own governing body and isn't made up of member nations like the UN or something. It has jurisdiction over every human colony and territory claim outside of the Sol system, which is still squabbled over by America/Russia/China/Europe etc.

Edit: So seeing as how the council only ever interacts with humanity through the Alliance, it basically represents us.

[Osterbaum]

So, what... Earth is basically just a place for people to keep on arguing about stuff, isolated from the rest of the galaxy.

[Melfice]

Originally Posted by Osterbaum

So, what... Earth is basically just a place for people to keep on arguing about stuff, isolated from the rest of the galaxy.

Yeah, pretty much.
As it stands, while human, the System Alliance, and it's planets, is pretty much a completely separate entity from Earth/Sol now.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

That's absolutely fucking hilarious.

I wonder if the Council knows that we haven't even stopped killing each other yet.