Fuck you racism - Page 3

katiuska · 02-14-2010, 07:58 AM

^^ This.

I started thinking about this a while back when I was browsing through someone random person's blog about someone else's abusive girlfriend and an incident which resulted in the guy getting slapped with the handcuffs, even though she was the aggressor, because she acquired a mark in the process of him defending himself. The person writing lost points for suggesting that the father of her child (not the current boyfriend) was right in abandoning said child because the woman was a bitch, but I was basically with him until he started blaming the women's movements for situations like the one he described. It's like, look, the women's rights movement advocated domestic projection/justice for women because there was a time when domestic abuse towards women was condoned or at least not addressed, while violence toward men was much more likely to be punished. If the justice system is now skewed so that men are unfairly suspected of assault even when they were not the ones being abusive, we can all agree that's wrong and should be dealt with, but I don't think the solution is to reenact some kind of Rule of Thumb.

I'm more knowledgeable when it comes to women's issues, but I think the same principle would hold toward other minorities.

Yrcrazypa · 02-14-2010, 09:02 AM

Once I started thinking about it more, that's the thinking I came to as well. I don't agree with women/'minorities' being treated differently by the law, but I definitely agree that it is necessary for at least another few generations of people. Because these are all people who only a handful of generations ago were largely treated like garbage, we need to take steps like this to discourage people from treating them badly. Though once we figure out how to treat all men and women equally in all aspects we can slowly start phasing the law to treating everyone equally in all aspects. How long that will take, no one can know.

Osterbaum · 02-14-2010, 09:30 AM

True equality is not having to treat different groups differently.

Azisien · 02-14-2010, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Premonitions

See? See that right there? It also makes me want to do a thread for Sexism,(although in truth my knowledge of sexism is secondary to my knowledge of racism and I'm not a "professional" in either regard, just an avid hobbyist of sorts >.<)
Edit:
Also, It'd be a Looooooong-ass post and ya'll mo-fo's don't like to read shit.

We haven't lynched (heheh) Solid Snake yet, so I think we wouldn't mind. Just uh...use paragraphs.

bluestarultor · 02-14-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by katiuska

^^ This.

I started thinking about this a while back when I was browsing through someone random person's blog about someone else's abusive girlfriend and an incident which resulted in the guy getting slapped with the handcuffs, even though she was the aggressor, because she acquired a mark in the process of him defending himself. The person writing lost points for suggesting that the father of her child (not the current boyfriend) was right in abandoning said child because the woman was a bitch, but I was basically with him until he started blaming the women's movements for situations like the one he described. It's like, look, the women's rights movement advocated domestic projection/justice for women because there was a time when domestic abuse towards women was condoned or at least not addressed, while violence toward men was much more likely to be punished. If the justice system is now skewed so that men are unfairly suspected of assault even when they were not the ones being abusive, we can all agree that's wrong and should be dealt with, but I don't think the solution is to reenact some kind of Rule of Thumb.

I'm more knowledgeable when it comes to women's issues, but I think the same principle would hold toward other minorities.

And you know, a lot of times, when guys get abused by women, there are OTHER factors in the system. It's not just a matter of guys being seen as more likely to hit women than vice versa. If a guy is emotionally abused by a woman, good luck getting anywhere with that, and be prepared to hear a lot of people telling you to grow a pair of balls. If a guy is actually RAPED by a woman, and it happens, it's even harder to convict than the other way around, because of all the abuse people will give the guy if he talks about it, the misconception that a woman raping a man is impossible, and the idea that if he got it up, he "must have liked it" and it therefore doesn't count.

DFM · 02-14-2010, 02:15 PM

If he didn't want it he shouldn't have dressed like that.

Odjn · 02-14-2010, 02:28 PM

Feminism taught me it was ok to punch women as long as I punch twice as many men.

DFM · 02-14-2010, 02:34 PM

I don't get it!

Odjn · 02-14-2010, 02:44 PM

See, supporting inequality is ok when the people getting the short end of the stick are the majority.

DFM · 02-14-2010, 02:46 PM

What if you just punch one guy for every girl but you punch him twice as hard in the penis?

02-14-2010, 07:58 AM	#21
katiuska Unlicensed Practitioner Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 801	^^ This. I started thinking about this a while back when I was browsing through someone random person's blog about someone else's abusive girlfriend and an incident which resulted in the guy getting slapped with the handcuffs, even though she was the aggressor, because she acquired a mark in the process of him defending himself. The person writing lost points for suggesting that the father of her child (not the current boyfriend) was right in abandoning said child because the woman was a bitch, but I was basically with him until he started blaming the women's movements for situations like the one he described. It's like, look, the women's rights movement advocated domestic projection/justice for women because there was a time when domestic abuse towards women was condoned or at least not addressed, while violence toward men was much more likely to be punished. If the justice system is now skewed so that men are unfairly suspected of assault even when they were not the ones being abusive, we can all agree that's wrong and should be dealt with, but I don't think the solution is to reenact some kind of Rule of Thumb. I'm more knowledgeable when it comes to women's issues, but I think the same principle would hold toward other minorities. __________________ If I try too hard my brain explodes, so don't expect me to be witty on purpose.

02-14-2010, 09:02 AM	#22
Yrcrazypa Not your babies daddy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 491	Once I started thinking about it more, that's the thinking I came to as well. I don't agree with women/'minorities' being treated differently by the law, but I definitely agree that it is necessary for at least another few generations of people. Because these are all people who only a handful of generations ago were largely treated like garbage, we need to take steps like this to discourage people from treating them badly. Though once we figure out how to treat all men and women equally in all aspects we can slowly start phasing the law to treating everyone equally in all aspects. How long that will take, no one can know. __________________ Killer of threads.

02-14-2010, 09:30 AM	#23
Osterbaum The revolution will be memed! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: FIN Posts: 5,967	True equality is not having to treat different groups differently. __________________ D is for Dirty Commie!

02-14-2010, 02:15 PM	#26
DFM Om Nom Nom Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,850	If he didn't want it he shouldn't have dressed like that. __________________ [14:26] ManoftheRus: YOU GODDAMN SNEAKY DEE

02-14-2010, 02:34 PM	#28
DFM Om Nom Nom Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,850	I don't get it! __________________ [14:26] ManoftheRus: YOU GODDAMN SNEAKY DEE

02-14-2010, 02:46 PM	#30
DFM Om Nom Nom Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,850	What if you just punch one guy for every girl but you punch him twice as hard in the penis? __________________ [14:26] ManoftheRus: YOU GODDAMN SNEAKY DEE