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Unread 02-17-2010, 07:06 AM   #51
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I hear FF13 doesn't even open up till Chapter 11, quite a ways in, In fact, I hear you can't even back track
Sounds like FFX, to be honest. Not entirely because you could backtrack in FFX but then again it was a bit of a pain to actually do it so to me it sounds close enough, at least.

I don't quite buy into this notion that linear games are per se worse than nonlinear ones. If a game is good and the story and gameplay hold my attention I don't particularly care if I can make a side trip to Bel'gov'ia' Desert to collect 700 cactus flowers for the shopkeeper anytime I want. Slagging a game that's designed to be linear for that very fact seems a bit like slagging Mega Man 9 for outdated graphics. (I'm aware Final Fantasy may be the wrong series for which to cite story quality as an element.)

... I did curse FFX many times for how much of a pain backtracking was though but then again the only reason I ever wanted to backtrack was to get video spheres or whatever before Dark Aeons showed up, so basically just video game collectable OCD.

Please also note that I haven't actually read very many FFXIII reviews or this thread so if at any point in my post you catch yourself thinking "but that's not what this is about at all" that's likely the reason.
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Unread 02-17-2010, 09:18 AM   #52
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From what I've heard, 13 might just drag me back in.
I very much disliked 12, so perhaps the change of plans'll be what I need.
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Unread 02-17-2010, 10:21 AM   #53
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I kinda want to get it for the 360, just to see if it red rings my console or something.

But from the eye-bleeding commentary leading up to the 3rd page before I gave up, I might like this. I liked FFX, and FFXII didn't really grab me (though I didn't give it a fair shot, which is why I didn't trade it in and will one day play it!)

Also, linearity? Fuck, every FF in my memory is linear. The games only open up a bit at 50-80% completion, and before then, FFs give you approximately two options:
1) Go to destination game wants you to go to.
2) Grind in forest outside destination game wants you to go to.
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Unread 02-17-2010, 10:30 AM   #54
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Default I didn't mind it that much in X but XII's open world was far superior.

My problem with the linearity is that the game is a giant, straight line with almost zero deviation. Not even any towns because they're lazy bastards with fucked up priorities. I'm not asking for wRPG levels of freedom, but a little room for deviation would be nice. Also: Sidequests.

A lot of my problems with FFXIII is that they seem to have just completely gutted everything and replaced it all with *PRETTY*.

Now excuse me while I go play Persona 4 and wait two and a half hours before I get to make anything other than dialogue choices. [/hypocrisy]
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Unread 02-17-2010, 10:58 AM   #55
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Also, linearity? Fuck, every FF in my memory is linear.
I think it was dropping world maps that really opened everyone's eyes for this.

Man I miss world maps.
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Unread 02-17-2010, 11:01 AM   #56
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I think it was dropping world maps that really opened everyone's eyes for this.

Man I miss world maps.
I hear FF Versus XIII is going to have world maps, or so I hear.

I also miss flying my airship myself. That was bomb. Why the fuck'd they cut that out?
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Unread 02-17-2010, 11:22 AM   #58
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I hear FF Versus XIII is going to have world maps, or so I hear.

I also miss flying my airship myself. That was bomb. Why the fuck'd they cut that out?
I love flying the airships. It was so much fun. Damnit now you made me depressed about lack of airship flying again Giving us a airship isn't enough, they should let us fly it!

My guess on world maps is that they want to make the world seem larger then what they give you. Like what they did with FF XII. But it's still sad that they've removed them.
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Unread 02-17-2010, 01:48 PM   #59
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Reviewers are looking at Final Fantasy as a wRPG.

Final Fantasy.

The franchise that started jRPGs.
Dragon Quest is now Final Fantasy?
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