Here, we rant about how unwanted spoilers have ruined our gaming experiences.

Solid Snake · 06-25-2010, 10:14 PM

Allow me to begin this post by offering you the forewarning my friend never bothered to grant me: There are massive Valkyria Chronicles spoilers ahead. Apparently. (I'll spoiler-tag 'em so you don't have to read them and you can still read everything else.)

I mean I'm holding out hope that my friend totally lied to me just to get a rise out of me, and that the plot twist he "spoiled" turns out to be a gigantic hoax. If so, hopefully someone here who's played Valkyria Chronicles will respond to this topic and say "Snake, your friend was just bullshitting you, that plot twist doesn't happen at all" and I'll be very happy.
But judging by his reaction, I doubt that's the case.

So, earlier this evening, a phone conversation between me and a RL friend took place that went a little something like this:

Me: "I'm so excited, I just got my PS3 back and I've been playing Valkyria Chronicles ever since. It's really starting to get good."
RL Friend: "Oh, that's a great game. Phenomenal game. I played it a year or two ago. Loved it."
Me: "Really? Heh, I didn't know that. I just beat Chapter Seven. Damn, that mission was tough. I had to play through it three times before I beat it."
RL Friend: "Oh man! So, what'd you think about Alicia being a valkyria? That totally caught me off guard."
Me: "..."
RL Friend: "...What?"
Me: "........."

I was seething mad. That sounded like a damn good unexpected plot twist, and I had set myself up to know absolutely nothing about the game as I was playing it. Up until this point Alicia just seemed like a typical Gallian militia chick, but it turns out she was apparently working for the enemy all along! I mean I just bet there's this great epic moment where Alicia stabs Welkin in the back and says "You never asked where I was from. I've been working for the Imperials all this time," and she turns blue or something and Welkin suddenly realizes his "pseudo-girlfriend" was a traitor. And now that moment's been ruined. That moment could have defined this experience for me, and now I already know what's going to happen.

Turns out my friend (according to him, anyway) thought I said mission seventeen instead of seven: however, I wouldn't be shocked if he purposely attempted to find an excuse to spoil the experience for me because he can be a real jerk when he wants to be.

So, in this topic, you'll relate to my pain and share similar stories about how so-called "friends" and "acquaintances" and other sources have ruined games without giving you a proper forewarning first. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's suffered because of someone else's loose lips.

(Of course, I remember in 1997 when FF7's big plot twist was spoiled for me, but I find that somewhat more permissible because the game was just so huge and that spoiler was everywhere. But this? This obscure, cute, fun little strategy RPG most people haven't heard of? Why would anyone take this away from me?)

Kim · 06-25-2010, 10:24 PM

I had Kingdom Hearts DS plot twist spoiled for me, and the one for Birth by Sleep. I'd be upset, but they're both the same plot twist and not really that good either.

BitVyper · 06-25-2010, 10:54 PM

Spoilers never really bothered me. If anything, I find sometimes that knowing what's going to happen accentuates its impact for me.

bluestarultor · 06-25-2010, 11:04 PM

I'd be more mad about the spoilers my friend tended to heap on me if all but one of them hadn't turned out to be utter bull. The one that was actually true was that Aeris dies.

Well, I suppose that's not true. He also got it right that Rose is the Black Monster, but that was so obvious that it barely counted.

Kyanbu The Legend · 06-25-2010, 11:58 PM

I usually don't believe anything about a game's plot that a friend of mine says ever unless I see it my self since they have been wrong before. However me and my friends have different interests when it comes to games and are respectfully about each other when it comes to spoilers so we usually never have this kind of problem.

Although learning nearly everything about FFX (largely due to my friend and my uncle both playing the game when I visited them each a few times) has prevented me from ever buying it. Not that it really bugs me that much.

Seil · 06-26-2010, 12:05 AM

I don't have a problem with this, as this occurs mainly when I spoil the game for myself.

Point in case, Bioshock - I was convinced that I wouldn't be able to play it, owning a PS3 before it came out for the 360, and thinking that "Wow, that looks totally awesome." So I looked it up and found out about the "Would you kindly" bit. I was like "That's really cool."

It was an awesome game, though, so I'm not complaining. But yeah, most of my woes come from me spoiling the games for meself.

Aerozord · 06-26-2010, 12:23 AM

I feel abit bad for you Seil, since what made that twist great is it didn't even occur to you. Kind of like that lingering sense you got in Shadow of the Colossus, the nagging feeling that something just isn't right

Seil · 06-26-2010, 12:32 AM

Well, most of what I choose to spoil for myself are scenes from awesome games, like Bioshock, and it doesn't matter to me as much because it's... well... Bioshock.

Marc v4.0 · 06-26-2010, 12:36 AM

Doesn't bother me at all, really.

mauve · 06-26-2010, 12:41 AM

You guys actually spoil a lot of games for me. I read your spoiler tag stuff, thinking that it's a game I'll probably never play, and then three months later I inevitably end up buying it for myself already knowing the plot twists because listening to you guys talk about it made it sound really awesome.

I'm pretty sure that happened with Shadow of the Colossus, at least for the very ending of the game. I don't mind, though, since Shadow of the Collossus is fantastic.

06-25-2010, 10:14 PM	#1
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	Here, we rant about how unwanted spoilers have ruined our gaming experiences. Allow me to begin this post by offering you the forewarning my friend never bothered to grant me: *There are massive Valkyria Chronicles spoilers ahead. Apparently.* (I'll spoiler-tag 'em so you don't have to read them and you can still read everything else.) I mean I'm holding out hope that my friend totally lied to me just to get a rise out of me, and that the plot twist he "spoiled" turns out to be a gigantic hoax. If so, hopefully someone here who's played Valkyria Chronicles will respond to this topic and say "Snake, your friend was just bullshitting you, that plot twist doesn't happen at all" and I'll be very happy. But judging by his reaction, I doubt that's the case. So, earlier this evening, a phone conversation between me and a RL friend took place that went a little something like this: Me: "I'm so excited, I just got my PS3 back and I've been playing Valkyria Chronicles ever since. It's really starting to get good." RL Friend: "Oh, that's a great game. Phenomenal game. I played it a year or two ago. Loved it." Me: "Really? Heh, I didn't know that. I just beat Chapter Seven. Damn, that mission was tough. I had to play through it three times before I beat it." RL Friend: "Oh man! So, what'd you think about Alicia being a valkyria? That totally caught me off guard." Me: "..." RL Friend: "...What?" Me: "........." I was seething mad. That sounded like a damn good unexpected plot twist, and I had set myself up to know absolutely nothing about the game as I was playing it. Up until this point Alicia just seemed like a typical Gallian militia chick, but it turns out she was apparently working for the enemy all along! I mean I just bet there's this great epic moment where Alicia stabs Welkin in the back and says "You never asked where I was from. I've been working for the Imperials all this time," and she turns blue or something and Welkin suddenly realizes his "pseudo-girlfriend" was a traitor. And now that moment's been ruined. That moment could have defined this experience for me, and now I already know what's going to happen. Turns out my friend (according to him, anyway) thought I said mission seventeen instead of seven: however, I wouldn't be shocked if he purposely attempted to find an excuse to spoil the experience for me because he can be a real jerk when he wants to be. So, in this topic, you'll relate to my pain and share similar stories about how so-called "friends" and "acquaintances" and other sources have ruined games without giving you a proper forewarning first. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's suffered because of someone else's loose lips. (Of course, I remember in 1997 when FF7's big plot twist was spoiled for me, but I find that somewhat more permissible because the game was just so huge and that spoiler was everywhere. But this? This obscure, cute, fun little strategy RPG most people haven't heard of? Why would anyone take this away from me?) __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text.

06-25-2010, 10:24 PM	#2
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	I had Kingdom Hearts DS plot twist spoiled for me, and the one for Birth by Sleep. I'd be upset, but they're both the same plot twist and not really that good either. __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

06-25-2010, 10:54 PM	#3
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Spoilers never really bothered me. If anything, I find sometimes that knowing what's going to happen accentuates its impact for me. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

06-25-2010, 11:58 PM	#5
Kyanbu The Legend Local Rookie Indie Dev Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,497	I usually don't believe anything about a game's plot that a friend of mine says ever unless I see it my self since they have been wrong before. However me and my friends have different interests when it comes to games and are respectfully about each other when it comes to spoilers so we usually never have this kind of problem. Although learning nearly everything about FFX (largely due to my friend and my uncle both playing the game when I visited them each a few times) has prevented me from ever buying it. Not that it really bugs me that much. __________________

06-26-2010, 12:05 AM	#6
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	I don't have a problem with this, as this occurs mainly when I spoil the game for myself. Point in case, Bioshock - I was convinced that I wouldn't be able to play it, owning a PS3 before it came out for the 360, and thinking that "Wow, that looks totally awesome." So I looked it up and found out about the "Would you kindly" bit. I was like "That's really cool." It was an awesome game, though, so I'm not complaining. But yeah, most of my woes come from me spoiling the games for meself. Last edited by Seil; 06-26-2010 at 12:33 AM.

06-26-2010, 12:23 AM	#7
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	I feel abit bad for you Seil, since what made that twist great is it didn't even occur to you. Kind of like that lingering sense you got in Shadow of the Colossus, the nagging feeling that something just isn't right __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

06-26-2010, 12:32 AM	#8
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	Well, most of what I choose to spoil for myself are scenes from awesome games, like Bioshock, and it doesn't matter to me as much because it's... well... Bioshock.

06-26-2010, 12:36 AM	#9
Marc v4.0 Fight Me, Nerds Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,470	Doesn't bother me at all, really. __________________

06-26-2010, 12:41 AM	#10
mauve So Dreamy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Someplace magical Posts: 6,863	You guys actually spoil a lot of games for me. I read your spoiler tag stuff, thinking that it's a game I'll probably never play, and then three months later I inevitably end up buying it for myself already knowing the plot twists because listening to you guys talk about it made it sound really awesome. I'm pretty sure that happened with Shadow of the Colossus, at least for the very ending of the game. I don't mind, though, since Shadow of the Collossus is fantastic. __________________ Yoo Hoo!