Pokemon Umbral Discussion 34: all your base... - Page 5

Menarker · 08-03-2010, 02:51 PM

Perhaps because Faynoc is a pedo in the same way that he displayed his attraction to the picture of Myrie Ricewood? He seems to target those who are either unable to defend themselves, totally naive, or have a "life debt" to him.

Also, the fact that it means that he was tinkering with her body to change her age and thus how she looked. That might make a significant difference in the future.
Let's pretend that Myrie was already kidnapped and tinkered with. (Damn you to hell Faynoc) If given the order to rescue her, PATCA would probably be given a photograph or some sort of visual representative so as to identify her. However, if she was tinkered with, the group might not recognize her as the person they are supposed to help since the photograph would be "out of date", and might end up fighting her (if she was brainwashed) and at worst killing her. Which would be a tragedy.

This might also come into play if the tinkering was also used to evade detection/capture. Could you imagine if Burkmont got a hold of this thing and could change his appearance so charges against him couldn't stick because he'd disappear whenever he could and assume a new identity, probably wait a little before causing havoc?

Now that I think about it, this might be a result of Faynoc tinkering with Ditto DNA for all I know. ^^:

On the other hand, it does mean that none of the PCs can seriously think of having a Love-Tech with Mio without being a pedo-perv, unless it was a strictly platonic love. Not that I think anyone would seriously consider using the limited Love-Tech slots on her when we have so many other ladies. :3

Bard The 5th LW · 08-03-2010, 02:53 PM

I see.

My main concern was actually that Mio was Myrie. I forgot the name of Ricewood's daughter.

Pretty heavy nightmare fuel no matter what though. In fact, that post just plain creeped me the fuck out.

Dracorion · 08-03-2010, 03:05 PM

Phhbttt. You just have a low squick threshold.

That post certainly didn't creep me out. I've definitely seen and read worse things, especially here on NPF, and didn't bat an eye.

It also works on the other end of the spectrum. From what I hear, I'm the only person in the world that didn't cry at any point during Toy Story 3.

Also, I highly doubt that even if Faynoc modified Myrie's appearance, it would be so much as to make her unrecognizable. Especially now that we know he can do that.

Menarker · 08-03-2010, 03:11 PM

You do bring up an interesting point though...

If we're using out of character knowledge, Faynoc's mission was to kidnap Myrie and then lure her mother Jeanette out in the open to kill her. The problem is that girl is clearly not Myrie, but Mio. Unless she was brainwashed to accept a different name... except claiming to be someone other than Myrie would hinder the chances of Jeanette recognizing her daughter and thus falling for the bait. The same would be true if he attempted to change Myrie's looks to look older. Do it too much and Jeanette might not recognize/believe the result to actually be Myrie.

Why would Faynoc be in the plaza in the first place, aside from potentially drumming up supporters? If he has Myrie, why did he not discretly send Jeanette a message? If he doesn't have Myrie, why does he think Myrie would be in the crowd to kidnap her? If he already sent the message, why does he expect Jeanette to mistake Mio for Myrie, especially if there is that age difference?
This is ignoring the possiblity that the message was sent, and Jeanette came for her daughter, but Faynoc didn't bring the real girl along to be cruel/spiteful (and avoiding the chance that the two actually could reunite and get away) and because the girl is also a genetic commander... but we don't know if Faynoc knows that the commanding gene is genetically passed on.

Another thing that bugs me is that re-reading an earlier post, we find out that Idolus wants the Genetic Commanders dead (and he knows that Jeanette is one). Would that change at all since they have a truce with PATCA? (Lexhur might not know about this since this info was discovered/revealed after he defected.) Or are they in the truce only long enough for them for Jeanette to reveal her location before they do the same break-in shit that they did in order to break out Lexhur from the "secure" PATCA headquarters"?

@Drac: Your quick threshold is not so much high, but very specific. >_> Most of the time, you're good. Stuff like Ash crossdressing on the other hand... you had broken down easily. ^^;

Bard The 5th LW · 08-03-2010, 03:19 PM

The ash cross-dressing thing didn't really bother me all that much, I just kept going along with it because it bothered Drac so much.There was a lot of invisible text in those posts.

This however, makes me a bit nauseous.

Menarker · 08-03-2010, 03:21 PM

For me, it was less squick and more "I love to hate Faynoc" in much the same manner as most people love to hate Umbridge from Harry Potter.

I sympathize with your empathy though. Despite this being a very much outrageous and outgoing RP, it's good to see that the serious stuff is taken with all the gravity it deserves.

Dracorion · 08-03-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Menarker

dumb

I don't...

Goddamnit, Menarker.

Faynoc hasn't kidnapped Myrie yet. The whole mess in the plaza is a distraction. He's probably got dudes over at Ricewood Masterworks right now raising all kinds of hell and kidnapping the kid.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

Another thing that bugs me is that re-reading an earlier post, we find out that Idolus wants the Genetic Commanders dead (and he knows that Jeanette is one). Would that change at all since they have a truce with PATCA? (Lexhur might not know about this since this info was discovered/revealed after he defected.) Or are they in the truce only long enough for them for Jeanette to reveal her location before they do the same break-in shit that they did in order to break out Lexhur from the "secure" PATCA headquarters"?

Meh, AB said the truce would last until Burkmont dies. I don't need to go looking for in-story justification.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

@Drac: Your quick threshold is not so much high, but very specific. >_> Most of the time, you're good. Stuff like Ash crossdressing on the other hand... you had broken down easily. ^^;

Uh, no.

What? I mean come on. You really think I could stand to see Faynoc be a disgusting pedophile and yet not stand up to Ash or James crossdressing? I've played FFVII for God's sakes!

No, I was just playin' and laughing my ass off when I pretended to be horrified. It's always fun to do that.

Astral Harmony · 08-03-2010, 03:54 PM

Sorry about last night. I was so focused the whole time typing up that post that I came out of it with a headache. Now I know why people sleep. It's to kept the headaches from overthinking away.

I fixed the Rage issue with Pierce, Mio is not Myrie, and Idolus doesn't know that Jeanette, and by inheritance, Myrie are genetic commanders. I doubt that Faynoc's told Gransrax anything. He's in such a deep need for power that he might try to do the same shit as Burkmont and maybe force Jeanette to control the generals for him in exchange for her daughter's safety.

Or he may just forget about all that and indulge in the personal grudge he's held for Ricewood that had stewed for about two decades. Whichever.

But we can pretty much guess. I mean, just look at Moera and Mio. Seems like little human girls that hang around Faynoc lose their humanity pretty damn quick. I think Myrie's in deep ship.

As for Aster insisting the issue of Mio's real age, I don't know why I made him so insistant on it. Maybe he's trying to justify his existence or something.

Dracorion · 08-03-2010, 04:07 PM

Hmm... Will Mio get reinforcements as the battle goes on?

Anyway, I'm thinking Pierce should go with his Signature Sequence.

Also, I demand that Rachel use a Full Heal on Palkia or Aria. Or both! Don't tell me you don't want either or both of them when the time comes to beat the shit out of Mio.

Bard The 5th LW · 08-03-2010, 04:14 PM

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Mio is not Myrie

This only makes me feel slightly better.

Well good thing my PC doesn't give a shit.

But Pierce and Renny, God all of those morals and that integrity is really going to put a damper on things.

You really should have put points towards sociopathy.

08-03-2010, 02:51 PM	#41
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Perhaps because Faynoc is a pedo in the same way that he displayed his attraction to the picture of Myrie Ricewood? He seems to target those who are either unable to defend themselves, totally naive, or have a "life debt" to him. Also, the fact that it means that he was tinkering with her body to change her age and thus how she looked. That might make a significant difference in the future. Let's pretend that Myrie was already kidnapped and tinkered with. (Damn you to hell Faynoc) If given the order to rescue her, PATCA would probably be given a photograph or some sort of visual representative so as to identify her. However, if she was tinkered with, the group might not recognize her as the person they are supposed to help since the photograph would be "out of date", and might end up fighting her (if she was brainwashed) and at worst killing her. Which would be a tragedy. This might also come into play if the tinkering was also used to evade detection/capture. Could you imagine if Burkmont got a hold of this thing and could change his appearance so charges against him couldn't stick because he'd disappear whenever he could and assume a new identity, probably wait a little before causing havoc? Now that I think about it, this might be a result of Faynoc tinkering with Ditto DNA for all I know. ^^: On the other hand, it does mean that none of the PCs can seriously think of having a Love-Tech with Mio without being a pedo-perv, unless it was a strictly platonic love. Not that I think anyone would seriously consider using the limited Love-Tech slots on her when we have so many other ladies. :3 __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 08-03-2010 at 02:56 PM.

08-03-2010, 03:05 PM	#43
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Phhbttt. You just have a low squick threshold. That post certainly didn't creep me out. I've definitely seen and read worse things, especially here on NPF, and didn't bat an eye. It also works on the other end of the spectrum. From what I hear, I'm the only person in the world that didn't cry at any point during Toy Story 3. Also, I highly doubt that even if Faynoc modified Myrie's appearance, it would be so much as to make her unrecognizable. Especially now that we know he can do that. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

08-03-2010, 03:11 PM	#44
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	You do bring up an interesting point though... If we're using out of character knowledge, Faynoc's mission was to kidnap Myrie and then lure her mother Jeanette out in the open to kill her. The problem is that girl is clearly not Myrie, but Mio. Unless she was brainwashed to accept a different name... except claiming to be someone other than Myrie would hinder the chances of Jeanette recognizing her daughter and thus falling for the bait. The same would be true if he attempted to change Myrie's looks to look older. Do it too much and Jeanette might not recognize/believe the result to actually be Myrie. Why would Faynoc be in the plaza in the first place, aside from potentially drumming up supporters? If he has Myrie, why did he not discretly send Jeanette a message? If he doesn't have Myrie, why does he think Myrie would be in the crowd to kidnap her? If he already sent the message, why does he expect Jeanette to mistake Mio for Myrie, especially if there is that age difference? This is ignoring the possiblity that the message was sent, and Jeanette came for her daughter, but Faynoc didn't bring the real girl along to be cruel/spiteful (and avoiding the chance that the two actually could reunite and get away) and because the girl is also a genetic commander... but we don't know if Faynoc knows that the commanding gene is genetically passed on. Another thing that bugs me is that re-reading an earlier post, we find out that Idolus wants the Genetic Commanders dead (and he knows that Jeanette is one). Would that change at all since they have a truce with PATCA? (Lexhur might not know about this since this info was discovered/revealed after he defected.) Or are they in the truce only long enough for them for Jeanette to reveal her location before they do the same break-in shit that they did in order to break out Lexhur from the "secure" PATCA headquarters"? @Drac: Your quick threshold is not so much high, but very specific. >_> Most of the time, you're good. Stuff like Ash crossdressing on the other hand... you had broken down easily. ^^; __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 08-03-2010 at 03:16 PM.

08-03-2010, 03:21 PM	#46
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	For me, it was less squick and more "I love to hate Faynoc" in much the same manner as most people love to hate Umbridge from Harry Potter. I sympathize with your empathy though. Despite this being a very much outrageous and outgoing RP, it's good to see that the serious stuff is taken with all the gravity it deserves. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

08-03-2010, 03:54 PM	#48
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Sorry about last night. I was so focused the whole time typing up that post that I came out of it with a headache. Now I know why people sleep. It's to kept the headaches from overthinking away. I fixed the Rage issue with Pierce, Mio is not Myrie, and Idolus doesn't know that Jeanette, and by inheritance, Myrie are genetic commanders. I doubt that Faynoc's told Gransrax anything. He's in such a deep need for power that he might try to do the same shit as Burkmont and maybe force Jeanette to control the generals for him in exchange for her daughter's safety. Or he may just forget about all that and indulge in the personal grudge he's held for Ricewood that had stewed for about two decades. Whichever. But we can pretty much guess. I mean, just look at Moera and Mio. Seems like little human girls that hang around Faynoc lose their humanity pretty damn quick. I think Myrie's in deep ship. As for Aster insisting the issue of Mio's real age, I don't know why I made him so insistant on it. Maybe he's trying to justify his existence or something. Last edited by Astral Harmony; 08-03-2010 at 04:05 PM.

08-03-2010, 02:53 PM	#42
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	I see. My main concern was actually that Mio was Myrie. I forgot the name of Ricewood's daughter. Pretty heavy nightmare fuel no matter what though. In fact, that post just plain creeped me the fuck out.

08-03-2010, 03:19 PM	#45
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	The ash cross-dressing thing didn't really bother me all that much, I just kept going along with it because it bothered Drac so much.There was a lot of invisible text in those posts. This however, makes me a bit nauseous.

08-03-2010, 04:07 PM	#49
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Hmm... Will Mio get reinforcements as the battle goes on? Anyway, I'm thinking Pierce should go with his Signature Sequence. Also, I demand that Rachel use a Full Heal on Palkia or Aria. Or both! Don't tell me you don't want either or both of them when the time comes to beat the shit out of Mio. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.