Pokemon Umbral Discussion 36: Questions Are Overrated - Page 9

Dracorion · 08-15-2010, 05:33 PM

No, no.

They must all wear it, man.

Okay, maybe they don't have to. I just think it'd be much cooler to have a thousand Marks of Impact marching side-by-side to battle, y'know?

Wherein the Mark of Impact is a literal brand on their arm.

Astral Harmony · 08-15-2010, 08:26 PM

The problem is that you claim giving up leadership would, in some way, put Impact at a disadvantage. In my opinion, that's not true. In a way, not being the leader, at least for a time, may prove benefitial to Impact in the future. Kinda help him see how his primary enemies in the sequel lead troops and how they think.

And the idea you have is kinda silly. You basically want me to create this other group or give you an rank so you can be a leader even though you won't be the leader. I can't for the life of me figure out what good that would do for anyone, yourself included.

If you want to be the leader, then stay the leader. Bard and Dracorian can complain about it all they want. Hell, if either of them were leader, they'd just invent something new to complain about. So far as I know, Menarker doesn't give a shit, and I'm certain Dante said he doesn't give a shit.

So here's what I propose: if you're gonna settle this issue, settle it in-character. You'll probably have to wait until the end of Pierce's sidequest because I imagine that the moment Mission 3 ends, Pierce is going to be too preoccupied to deal with you and Charlotte. But when you three get the chance, I wanna see it. Impact's Dragon Slave versus Charlotte's shotgun versus Pierce's Staff of Phantomere with this music in the background.

And actually, all three of you will get to lead in Pierce's sidequest.

Dracorion · 08-15-2010, 08:39 PM

Oh AB, you always brighten up my day. Even when I see it coming.

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

If you want to be the leader, then stay the leader. Bard and Dracorian can complain about it all they want. Hell, if either of them were leader, they'd just invent something new to complain about.

This is entirely true.

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

So here's what I propose: if you're gonna settle this issue, settle it in-character. You'll probably have to wait until the end of Pierce's sidequest because I imagine that the moment Mission 3 ends, Pierce is going to be too preoccupied to deal with you and Charlotte. But when you three get the chance, I wanna see it. Impact's Dragon Slave versus Charlotte's shotgun versus Pierce's Staff of Phantomere with this music in the background.

That sounds like it'd be hella fun.

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

And actually, all three of you will get to lead in Pierce's sidequest.

What, you're splitting the main formation even more?

Bard The 5th LW · 08-15-2010, 09:28 PM

So what's the ultimatum here? Who is leader?

Cause I got this cool victory dance GIF. and I don't want it to go to waste. It doesn't even have to be me who uses it.

Astral Harmony · 08-15-2010, 10:34 PM

You need to be a leader to use a victory dance? You could just use that dance everytime you kill someone who's on your shit list.

Anyways, I figured that we would actually be split in three parties. Pierce is by himself, then we split up the rest of the PCs and NPCs to tackle various obstacles to help divide the incoming threats of which there are many. Faynoc's been a busy little immoral Pokebrid.

Obviously, Impact will lead one group while Charlotte will lead another unless they decide they must be together, which, considering how close Geminex and Bard are getting...*shrugs uncertainly*

With quite a large number of bosses and a good variety of foes even before including Pokemon units, Pierce's sidequest is going to be quite a ruckus.

EDIT: Post won't be finished tonight. I could have it done in another hour, but I'm having doubts about what I've posted. I'm going to think about it real quick and then work the kinks out. It just doesn't feel right.

Geminex · 08-16-2010, 05:08 AM

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Obviously, Impact will lead one group while Charlotte will lead another unless they decide they must be together, which, considering how close Geminex and Bard are getting...*shrugs uncertainly*

OUR RELATIONSHIP IS ENTIRELY PLATONIC.

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So what's the ultimatum here? Who is leader?

Oh for god's sake.
YOU ARE. PROBABLY. THAT'S WHAT I JUST SPENT AGES NEGOTIATING.
...
ENTIRELY PLATONIC.

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The problem is that you claim giving up leadership would, in some way, put Impact at a disadvantage. In my opinion, that's not true. In a way, not being the leader, at least for a time, may prove benefitial to Impact in the future. Kinda help him see how his primary enemies in the sequel lead troops and how they think.

And the idea you have is kinda silly. You basically want me to create this other group or give you an rank so you can be a leader even though you won't be the leader. I can't for the life of me figure out what good that would do for anyone, yourself included.

Once again, this isn't about being leader. I never said it was about being leader, never even implied it! I'm merely looking for an excuse for Impact to stop leading the watchmen, without harming him directly. Because, while you're right, him giving up leadership wouldn't be too bad for him, we need to come up with an excuse as to why he's no longer leader, but Charlotte is. Because I don't just want to have him demoted! That'd have to involve him making some mistake, or Rayleen going 'hey, you're not well-suited to leading after all!'. That'd make him look pretty bad. I'm trying to find a way not to make my character look bad, and if that's silly, then call me mister pants-on-head.

The suggestion I made (him being promoted into the military) would give us all three aims: It'd provide a justification why Impact's no longer leader, it'd do so without harming him (since it's less 'YOU'RE NOT GOOD AT LEADING GO AWAY' and more 'We require your skills elsewhere'), and, as a bonus, it'd justify why Charlotte should be leader (since Impact would be allowed to pick a replacement, namely Charlotte). It's an elegant, simple solution, it provides ample justification, and I really don't know why you're unwilling to help us with this. It'd require one or two sentences of explanation at most (I'd do the rest), the changes it makes overall would be nigh-neglegible. And it's not like I'm asking you for a personal favor, for any sort of advantage! Just for a bit of help facilitating a deal without harming my character.

If you can think of a way to do it that agrees with you more, sure! Gladly! And if you really don't want to help, well, ok, whatever you want. I'll find some other way, though without your assistance, it really won't be a very good transition. *shrug*

In any case, I'll stop discussing this now.

Astral Harmony · 08-16-2010, 05:30 AM

Well, let's just make this simple, then.

Impact is the current leader.

He can decide to put Charlotte, Pierce, Renny, or Matthias in that position. No NPCs there. That's just a bucket of shenanigans that will overrun with blood. I'd expect Charlotte to pull a Lancer out of an alternate dimension and just go to town on the issue.

He doesn't have to explain why he made this decision to anybody, District Chief included. And he doesn't lose face. In fact, I daresay it would actually be big of him.

Geminex · 08-16-2010, 05:33 AM

Oh. Allrighty then. Never mind my prattling.
...
Could he, like, set up a series of challenges? Maybe a Very Lethal Obstacle Course. Or a gladiatorial arena. Or wrestling!
Or a combination of the three, fuck yeah. Renny vs. Charlotte vs. Pierce. First to two points gets leadership.
...
That'd cool, guys? Right?
...
Right?

Astral Harmony · 08-16-2010, 05:36 AM

Umm...

Confer with your council?

Just go with the flow and demand sexual favors. I wanna see Charlotte's eyebrows on the ceiling.

Geminex · 08-16-2010, 05:41 AM

Well, that'd involve giving Renny The Talk, and I'm not sure whether Impact's qualified to do that.

...

Next comic. Rayleen. Renny. The Talk. MAKE HAPPEN.

Edit: As for Pierce and Charlotte, well, I think Pierce is committed to Tyranitar, and Charlotte is almost as asexual as Impact, so...

08-15-2010, 05:33 PM	#81
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	No, no. They must all wear it, man. Okay, maybe they don't have to. I just think it'd be much cooler to have a thousand Marks of Impact marching side-by-side to battle, y'know? Wherein the Mark of Impact is a literal brand on their arm. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

08-15-2010, 10:34 PM	#85
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	You need to be a leader to use a victory dance? You could just use that dance everytime you kill someone who's on your shit list. Anyways, I figured that we would actually be split in three parties. Pierce is by himself, then we split up the rest of the PCs and NPCs to tackle various obstacles to help divide the incoming threats of which there are many. Faynoc's been a busy little immoral Pokebrid. Obviously, Impact will lead one group while Charlotte will lead another unless they decide they must be together, which, considering how close Geminex and Bard are getting...shrugs uncertainly With quite a large number of bosses and a good variety of foes even before including Pokemon units, Pierce's sidequest is going to be quite a ruckus. EDIT: Post won't be finished tonight. I could have it done in another hour, but I'm having doubts about what I've posted. I'm going to think about it real quick and then work the kinks out. It just doesn't feel right. Last edited by Astral Harmony; 08-16-2010 at 04:45 AM.

08-16-2010, 05:41 AM	#90
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Well, that'd involve giving Renny The Talk, and I'm not sure whether Impact's qualified to do that. ... Next comic. Rayleen. Renny. The Talk. MAKE HAPPEN. Edit: As for Pierce and Charlotte, well, I think Pierce is committed to Tyranitar, and Charlotte is almost as asexual as Impact, so... Last edited by Geminex; 08-16-2010 at 05:43 AM.

08-15-2010, 08:26 PM	#82
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	The problem is that you claim giving up leadership would, in some way, put Impact at a disadvantage. In my opinion, that's not true. In a way, not being the leader, at least for a time, may prove benefitial to Impact in the future. Kinda help him see how his primary enemies in the sequel lead troops and how they think. And the idea you have is kinda silly. You basically want me to create this other group or give you an rank so you can be a leader even though you won't be the leader. I can't for the life of me figure out what good that would do for anyone, yourself included. If you want to be the leader, then stay the leader. Bard and Dracorian can complain about it all they want. Hell, if either of them were leader, they'd just invent something new to complain about. So far as I know, Menarker doesn't give a shit, and I'm certain Dante said he doesn't give a shit. So here's what I propose: if you're gonna settle this issue, settle it in-character. You'll probably have to wait until the end of Pierce's sidequest because I imagine that the moment Mission 3 ends, Pierce is going to be too preoccupied to deal with you and Charlotte. But when you three get the chance, I wanna see it. Impact's Dragon Slave versus Charlotte's shotgun versus Pierce's Staff of Phantomere with this music in the background. And actually, all three of you will get to lead in Pierce's sidequest.

08-15-2010, 09:28 PM	#84
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	So what's the ultimatum here? Who is leader? Cause I got this cool victory dance GIF. and I don't want it to go to waste. It doesn't even have to be me who uses it.

08-16-2010, 05:30 AM	#87
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Well, let's just make this simple, then. Impact is the current leader. He can decide to put Charlotte, Pierce, Renny, or Matthias in that position. No NPCs there. That's just a bucket of shenanigans that will overrun with blood. I'd expect Charlotte to pull a Lancer out of an alternate dimension and just go to town on the issue. He doesn't have to explain why he made this decision to anybody, District Chief included. And he doesn't lose face. In fact, I daresay it would actually be big of him.

08-16-2010, 05:33 AM	#88
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Oh. Allrighty then. Never mind my prattling. ... Could he, like, set up a series of challenges? Maybe a Very Lethal Obstacle Course. Or a gladiatorial arena. Or wrestling! Or a combination of the three, fuck yeah. Renny vs. Charlotte vs. Pierce. First to two points gets leadership. ... That'd cool, guys? Right? ... Right?

08-16-2010, 05:36 AM	#89
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Umm... Confer with your council? Just go with the flow and demand sexual favors. I wanna see Charlotte's eyebrows on the ceiling.