Babies - Page 3

Menarker · 05-27-2011, 02:32 PM

Personally, the fact you're reflecting on not wanting children is already a good sign. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have them or should. But that you're actually examining and reflecting on the issue.

Many people have taken the idea of children as some sort of symbolic token for love with a percieved significant other, as if by having the child (or giving one if you're a guy) is only viable way to demostrate the extent of your affection, only to be saddled with a heavy mental/emotional/financial burden if the relationship ever sours, as many single parents can attest to. The child is then a poisoned reminder of a bad judgement call or possibly even abandoned by the parent who want nothing more with it, although it is no fault of the child itself.

Many others don't even THINK of babies and are shocked as hell when the topic comes up as the result of their irresponsible flings with others. Many just wanting one without the other. And I hardly need to elaborate on all the drama that comes as a result.

And of course, there is this issue that the notion of having children is a sort of proof of experience and thus awards prestige when it really shouldn't be the case (because unless you're a completely sexy unattached lady, being considered a virgin is lately becoming a stigmata.) Pop Culture would have you believe that guys who do not have interest in sex or fail to succeed in it are losers. And that sexy virgins are ideal but a sexy woman who refuses to have sex has something wrong with them. So there is quite a situation of society expecting two mutually exclusive roles. Society, especially in pop culture medium, is quite fond of protraying people past a certain age without children when they are capable of doing so in quite a negative fashion. A sad state of affairs.

The matter is bundled with a lot of double-standard issues and it's really shameful that others are telling you to get children when they would neither be paying for it upkeep or raising it or dealing with all the bundled issues that come with it.

So at best, I can only encourage that you're thinking hard on it and not to get swept up into it unless you sincerely and actually feel you're capable and willing to have one. It's a huge responsibilities, but has its costs and benefits either way you choose. I applaud you for trying to look through these things with a proper mindset and not being blindly optimistic or negligant about it.

**Revising Ocelot** · 05-27-2011, 02:36 PM

My general reaction to babies is to wonder what sick man sends them to fight me.

Nique · 05-27-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SMB

Demolition man proves this.

Smarty is clearly drunk.

Seil · 05-27-2011, 02:45 PM

Ooh! Can we have another adoption versus birthing discussion? That was neat.

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Smarty is clearly drunk.

When is this sentence not applicable?

Menarker · 05-27-2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Seil

Ooh! Can we have another adoption versus birthing discussion? That was neat.

The OP was more about whether or not she should have ANY children with conflicts between her personal thoughts and feelings and the pressures of her peers/society, NOT the different methods of obtaining them and the de/merits of each.

Bobbey · 05-27-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Menarker

The OP was more about whether or not she should have ANY children with conflicts between her personal thoughts and feelings and the pressures of her peers/society, NOT the different methods of obtaining them and the de/merits of each.

Indeed.

Thanks everyone by the way for your comments/support. I know I'm still young to be thingking about these things to a worrysome extent, maybe my mind will change yet again in the years to come, but for now, my mindset is still at ''Babies = No'' and I shouldn't be afraid to give out my opinion. If people respond negatively to my train of thought, well, like someone else said before, fuck them, it's not their decision to make.

Nique · 05-27-2011, 03:49 PM

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fuck them

Or don't, as that might confuse your message!

I'm so hilarious.

Magus · 05-27-2011, 08:25 PM

I'm kind of indifferent to babies and children in real life, but for some reason whenever they appear on a commercial or TV program or film I am filled with loathing and disgust. Is there a name for this phenomenon? Like "pop-baby-hatred syndrome" or something? Maybe it is more that I am loathful and disgusted with the fact that they think a child will make me buy whatever they are selling, like I am a mindless idiot. What do babies have to do with trading stocks, anyway? Absurd.

I mean, is there scientific evidence that putting a baby on the label makes women more likely to buy toilet paper? If it does, what does this say about our species that we can so easily be swayed by some unfathomable emotional imagery into spending our money? "A sucker born every minute" comes to mind...

EDIT: BTW Nique you are simply hastening the demise of the human race with your ideas. A neural pleasure wand combined with a holodeck would basically end all human interaction. Pray the future does not come to be!

The Murderer · 05-27-2011, 08:30 PM

Every time i see a woman holding a baby, i just want to slaughter her child in front of her. Is this bad? then again i think the same thing every time i see anybody with a child...and tend to follow through on it alot...

POS Industries · 05-27-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nique

Smarty is clearly drunk.

Looks like someone doesn't know how to use the three seashells!

05-27-2011, 02:32 PM	#21
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Personally, the fact you're reflecting on not wanting children is already a good sign. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have them or should. But that you're actually examining and reflecting on the issue. Many people have taken the idea of children as some sort of symbolic token for love with a percieved significant other, as if by having the child (or giving one if you're a guy) is only viable way to demostrate the extent of your affection, only to be saddled with a heavy mental/emotional/financial burden if the relationship ever sours, as many single parents can attest to. The child is then a poisoned reminder of a bad judgement call or possibly even abandoned by the parent who want nothing more with it, although it is no fault of the child itself. Many others don't even THINK of babies and are shocked as hell when the topic comes up as the result of their irresponsible flings with others. Many just wanting one without the other. And I hardly need to elaborate on all the drama that comes as a result. And of course, there is this issue that the notion of having children is a sort of proof of experience and thus awards prestige when it really shouldn't be the case (because unless you're a completely sexy unattached lady, being considered a virgin is lately becoming a stigmata.) Pop Culture would have you believe that guys who do not have interest in sex or fail to succeed in it are losers. And that sexy virgins are ideal but a sexy woman who refuses to have sex has something wrong with them. So there is quite a situation of society expecting two mutually exclusive roles. Society, especially in pop culture medium, is quite fond of protraying people past a certain age without children when they are capable of doing so in quite a negative fashion. A sad state of affairs. The matter is bundled with a lot of double-standard issues and it's really shameful that others are telling you to get children when they would neither be paying for it upkeep or raising it or dealing with all the bundled issues that come with it. So at best, I can only encourage that you're thinking hard on it and not to get swept up into it unless you sincerely and actually feel you're capable and willing to have one. It's a huge responsibilities, but has its costs and benefits either way you choose. I applaud you for trying to look through these things with a proper mindset and not being blindly optimistic or negligant about it. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 05-27-2011 at 02:47 PM.

05-27-2011, 02:36 PM	#22
Revising Ocelot Douchebag Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Probably somewhere in England. Posts: 1,897	My general reaction to babies is to wonder what sick man sends them to fight me. __________________ magic sucks

05-27-2011, 08:25 PM	#28
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I'm kind of indifferent to babies and children in real life, but for some reason whenever they appear on a commercial or TV program or film I am filled with loathing and disgust. Is there a name for this phenomenon? Like "pop-baby-hatred syndrome" or something? Maybe it is more that I am loathful and disgusted with the fact that they think a child will make me buy whatever they are selling, like I am a mindless idiot. What do babies have to do with trading stocks, anyway? Absurd. I mean, is there scientific evidence that putting a baby on the label makes women more likely to buy toilet paper? If it does, what does this say about our species that we can so easily be swayed by some unfathomable emotional imagery into spending our money? "A sucker born every minute" comes to mind... EDIT: BTW Nique you are simply hastening the demise of the human race with your ideas. A neural pleasure wand combined with a holodeck would basically end all human interaction. Pray the future does not come to be! __________________ The Valiant Review

05-27-2011, 08:30 PM	#29
The Murderer Edgelord Cringe Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 35	Every time i see a woman holding a baby, i just want to slaughter her child in front of her. Is this bad? then again i think the same thing every time i see anybody with a child...and tend to follow through on it alot...