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I recommend reading the full article, too. Covers some other failings of Card's rewrite.
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I have no problem with rewriting Shakespeare- shakespeare was rewiting others himself, he's overrated hugely and he wrote plays which require act of interpretation by their very nature and rewriting peope is awesome. The homophobia is pretty tacky though.
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On the one hand, Ender's Game was fantastic. On the other, its author is an enormous bigot. Luckily, I'm allowed to like the material and not the person.
While I'm here, though, let's see if there's a message Card's subconsciously communicating here... -Naked shower wrestling. -"The enemy's gate is down." -The alien race is "the buggers." The only way to beat them is to penetrate deep, deep down through their defences until you can strike their nerve center with your powerful explosives. And then, once the protagonist beats them all? He begins to sympathize with their ways, and tries his best to learn more about them. Really, the book is full of subconscious homosexual references. Maybe Card is just haunted by a gay ghost? EDIT: I read the rest of the article. Yup, pretty sure Card's just terribly insecure in his sexuality. Last edited by Kerensky287; 09-07-2011 at 07:15 PM. |
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I was waiting for the punchline cause rewriting Shakespeare is a perfectly reasonable literary endeavor that lots of people do all the time.
And then I got to it! Thread did not disappoint.
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Author Scott Lynch got wind of this and decided he needed a piece of that action!
Presenting: THE SO MUCH LESS GAY and NOT WRITTEN WITH GAY BIG WORDS version of THE CRONICLE HISTORY OF HENRY THE FIFTH formerly by William Shakespeare Excerpt: Quote:
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Seriously, is he on drugs? You could argue that Hamlet is damned for all the needless death he inflicts, because even in the original text, Hamlet has the flimsiest logic for actually doing any of it. Oh sure, there's the revenge plot from a ghost, but Hamlet was pretty stupid to stab a curtain without looking behind it, and completely rejecting Ophelia. Death of her father + romantic rejection = suicide. Maybe he's not directly responsible for that one, but his basic reasoning is that 'if I act crazy, no one will suspect any thing, except grief'. It'd have made far more sense just to carry on as normal, since he was already actually grieving for goodness sake. After this he basically just starts killing his way to the top. The whole thing goes to hell in a hand basket until foreign powers come in to take over. The king being gay, and molesting his son and his friends not only dramatically changes the tone of the story, but makes the plot insensible. Even in the original plot, Hamlet at least sort of has a plan to act off his head to catch them off guard so he can get the full story, but ends up using a travelling band of actors to act out the suspected death scene. This way Hamlet at least checks to see if his Uncle is guilty. How does this work in the novella? Hamlet would have to blindly believe his fathers ghost and run off killing people, which is really just a completely different story. I'd suspect it'd be a little more difficult to convince him if he was a raving homosexual with a history of molestation. Critics have often speculated that perhaps there was some sort of incestuous tension between Hamlet and his mother but this is rather ridiculous. I'm not even going to touch on the molestation makes you gay too idea.
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So, let's see here. My inner decent human being hates this because he's being a gigantic fucking bigot to gay people. My inner Bardolator hates him because he's turned interesting and complex characters with complicated motivations into a series of paper cutouts in his preschool-level collage on The Evilz of Gheys and Their Buttseckz Oh No.
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Yeah my beef, other than how terribly he does it and the homophobia and all that, was that it was fucking ORSON SCOTT CARD doing this and fuck I just really hate the guy.
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...Can I still like the Ender's Game series, even though I despise this thing even more than I hated Treason?
...Darn it, I hate it when the creator of a work I have enjoyed turns out to be an enormous jerk. It just makes it harder to enjoy the work on its own merits, because I can't help but think about the guy who made it. |
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I don't think I'd take so much issue to this if we weren't talking about Hamlet. I mean, sure, you can re-write the dialogue if the old vocabulary and stuff isn't your thing, but the character of Hamlet that those words build is pretty solidly interesting.
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