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Unread 06-11-2012, 08:19 PM   #1
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How I Killed Your Master Thai boxing and Youn Wha Ryu or "What have I gotten myself into?"

So I'm an average build gimpy heart/lung out of shape gamer/physicist.

I decided it would be a fucking fantastic idea to sign up for Muay Thai boxing and Youn Wha Ryu martial arts in the same semester. For the next six weeks I'll spend four days a week slowly dying.

What I would like to know is a few pointers and tips for making my downtime more productive, as well as if it's possible to shorten the recovery time through special dieting / stretching or whatever.

Mind you I am mostly vegan. I'll do dairy/whatever will help but meat/fish/poultry is still out of the question.

Also suggestions in general for fitness because I don't own this thread. It is a collective clusterfuck of collaborative communication careening carefully close to complete candy because there's no way I can finish that.

(HIKYM because FIST! rar)

(Oh, and I'm also doing daily pilates because I get bitched at by my friend if I skip on her. Yes I do pilates, yes my initials are J. D., no I am not a doctor, but feel welcome to call me girl names anyway.)
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Unread 06-11-2012, 08:48 PM   #2
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Well here is the thing Priscilla...

First of all, you'll hurt for not having meat in your diet... at least until your body adapts to your situation.

Also, eat something before training. Nothing too light, but nothing too heavy either.

And you should consider allowing Eggs into your diet. Something like a hardboiled egg or even A fried egg a couple of times in the week, should be more than enough...
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Unread 06-11-2012, 08:56 PM   #3
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Also, eat something before training. Nothing too light, but nothing too heavy either.

And you should consider allowing Eggs into your diet. Something like a hardboiled egg or even A fried egg a couple of times in the week, should be more than enough...
Will do. And I've been borderline considering doing eggs again anyway because I figure that, logically, if a moral vegetarian believes in abortion, why not eat eggs? (I know, it's a completely different thing, but eh.)
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Unread 06-11-2012, 11:13 PM   #4
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Mmmm 2 eggs for breakfast, every day, perfect start to the morning.

My recommendation for maximizing recovery is to not skimp on good old fashioned sleep. Sleep time is as important as exercise time, and your body will tell you to go fuck yourself if you really want to test otherwise.
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Unread 06-11-2012, 11:22 PM   #5
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I second Bells on eggs and dairy if you are morally on board with it. Kickboxing and muay thai in particular are very intense sports (I did both for a period of time) and lots of calories are instrumental in recovery after that level of exercise. However, you want to be able to absorb these calories easily, and the more fibrous and complex the food, the longer and harder your body will have to work to absorb those calories. Eggs are broken down relatively easily and contain a good amount of the protein and fats you'll need.

Protein powder also works. I haven't researched the ingredients so I don't know if it's vegan or not but usually the primary ingredient is whey protein. Also, white bread is good for eating pre and post workout because it's easily digested. You want to have energy available while you're working out and (in my experience) eating highly fibrous foods does not provide this immediate energy. Oh, and slightly sugary drinks like powerade or vitamin water or what have you are good. Bonus points if you can find a drink without HFCS, but don't sweat it if you consume a little bit of HFCS when the rest of your diet (presumably) is fine.

Again, more of my personal experience: sucrose is good right after you work out because it shuts down the stress hormones that make you feel like crap and ultimately make recovery a bitch. I mean, don't eat a bucket of sugar or anything, but like... have some pineapple! Pineapple is delicious and has tons of sucrose. Or (gasp) maybe a doughnut. Or some ice cream (also high in protein and fat!) A lot of people emphasize protein after you workout, but sugar is also important. However, everyone is different- try to eat intuitively.

Just, don't starve yourself, whatever you do. Your body needs fuel!

Edit: WTF I forgot that whey is dairy. Lulz.

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Unread 06-11-2012, 11:29 PM   #6
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Again, more of my personal experience: sucrose is good right after you work out because it shuts down the stress hormones that make you feel like crap and ultimately make recovery a bitch. I mean, don't eat a bucket of sugar or anything, but like... have some pineapple! Pineapple is delicious and has tons of sucrose. Or (gasp) maybe a doughnut. Or some ice cream (also high in protein and fat!) A lot of people emphasize protein after you workout, but sugar is also important. However, everyone is different- try to eat intuitively
I've read a tall glass of chocolate milk immediately after a work out is a good combination of the crap you need to recover quickly, and that you should save the protein for a bit (hour or two? Something like that) after that, when your body is more ready to absorb it.

But that's just what I've read and I don't really work out or whatever, so take it with a grain of salt.
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Unread 06-12-2012, 10:27 AM   #7
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Protein and high-carb foods are best consumed within 30 minutes of the end of your workout. If you're looking to build muscle, you'll probably want to increase your protein consumption by about 100g per day. Bags of powdered whey protein would come in handy at this point. It is expensive, but if you're doing this for a whole semester then having a giant bag from Costco or other similar wholesale places is the best option.
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Unread 06-12-2012, 11:18 AM   #8
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Unless there's some huge price disparity for whey where we live, whey powder is definitely not expensive. I mean, it is an additional expense if one decides to use it, but try making up that amount of protein in meat, and then you'll learn what expensive is.
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Unread 06-12-2012, 12:22 PM   #9
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Be careful about protein powder: It's possible to have too much, and have very negative side effects. My younger brother was on a crazy, "I'm going to build muscle and such" kick recently, and was drinking a protein shake a day. He ended up becoming lactose intolerent, because of the sudden spike in lactose intake, I'm assuming.

I'd like to point out, you mean vegetarian, not vegan. Lacto-ovo vegetarian, if you're eating eggs/dairy. And people who say fish or poultry isn't meat are stupid. I don't know why it always takes clarifying that they are meat.
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Unread 06-12-2012, 12:57 PM   #10
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I hope you like the initial year of hardening.
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