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Unread 11-11-2012, 07:05 AM   #51
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Well you can't count just people killed by foreign policy. Don't forget the theoretical Romney administration would kill more sick people, abortionists, troublesome daughters, suspicious-looking foreigners, homosexuals, convicted criminals and generally less well off people, and who knows how many would die in the long term due to poorer education and less climate control efforts.
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Unread 11-11-2012, 08:33 AM   #52
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Well, Bush had a terrorist attack during his first term. Might have given him room to get away with that stuff.


He ignored ALL the warnings to fight Iraq instead of terrorism. And Bush stated how Bin Laden was not his top concern.
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Unread 11-11-2012, 04:49 PM   #53
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He ignored ALL the warnings to fight Iraq instead of terrorism. And Bush stated how Bin Laden was not his top concern.
Do you honestly believe that 9/11 had nothing to do with his ability to get away with that as much as he did? Cuz if you do, you're wrong.
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I think he's just noting that Bush was going to do that shit anyway and that being able to capitalize on the single largest act of terrorism on American soil that his own administration's incompetence allowed to happen was merely icing on the cake.

Republicans don't actually give a fuck about defending their murders that they commit because they have a well-oiled political machine that can convince half the country that committing those murders was absolutely the right thing to do before they even do them. When Democrats call them out on it, Republicans just say that the Democrats hate freedom and eagles and mom and apple pie and it works every single time. Meanwhile, Republicans are able to just make up complete fantasy about evil things Democrats do just by saying things like "Socialism" and "Acorn" and "Solyndra" with no context whatsoever and send Democrats into complete backpedaling damage control mode, and it works every single time.

This was life under the Bush administration, and I have no doubt it very easily would have been life under the Romney administration, as well.

EDIT: I mean, you know all this so I'm obviously preaching to the choir. It's just that I'm still pretty burned up about it. I'm sure you understand.
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We've forgiven you guys but that don't mean you can just pretend it never happened.
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Unread 11-11-2012, 07:59 PM   #56
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We've forgiven you guys but that don't mean you can just pretend it never happened.
Clarify.
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Unread 11-11-2012, 08:33 PM   #57
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this is smarty, its probably a reference to the american revolution and how england was all good and noble and totally not war mongering pricks that forced their beliefs on others all in the name of exploiting the resources of new land and taxing the hell out of those that help them
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Unread 11-11-2012, 08:39 PM   #58
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this is smarty, its probably a reference to the american revolution and how england was all good and noble and totally not war mongering pricks that forced their beliefs on others all in the name of exploiting the resources of new land and taxing the hell out of those that help them
Except Smarty has never really argued that England was good and noble. He has previously argued that England was on the path towards progressive policies regardless of America's actions, that America's founding fathers didn't at all resemble American's portrayal of them as noble god's set to lead America to a Perfect Future, etc etc. So, what he's probably referring to was probably a terrorist act on America's part, and whether or not you agree with why they did it wouldn't change that it was a terrorist act.
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Unread 11-11-2012, 08:40 PM   #59
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hmm, actually Britian was basically just the modern US, just without all the pretense and even worst acts of genocide and crimes against humanity. Like getting entire nations addicted to opium, or having natives help you survive in this new place before literally murdering all of them for not abandoning their homes when you tell them to.

England is such a lovely nation isn't it? So much history
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England is such a lovely nation isn't it? So much history
Nobody's actually saying that.

Honestly, putting words in people's mouths like this is really childish of you, and you've been generally petty and antagonistic of late in other threads. I don't know what's your deal that you think this is exemplary behavior, but please knock it off.
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