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Unread 08-24-2010, 07:27 PM   #81
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Just to mess with you guys.

Matthias is somewhere between those two.
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Unread 08-24-2010, 08:31 PM   #82
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Anyway, the plan. I like mine better, Menarker:

I'm going to assume that, since I haven't run my proposed Trainer Actions by AB, and Menarker only has the one, and Bard hasn't thought up his yet, that we're still going by the old Trainer Attack system, at least for this turn.

Renny: Shaymin and Swampert use Air Slash on the Fog.
Rachel: Two Rage Rockets on Pierce and Impact.
Wilhelmina: STAB Dark Shot on Psytellite A.
Irene: Attacks PsyImpact with Grimslay for STAB Super Effective Ghost damage and 50% base chance of Instant Death. (Doubled to 100% due to Super Effectiveness?) Sceptile uses X-Scissor on PsyPierce. Rhyperior uses Megahorn on PsyMatthias.
Melanie: Uses "Un" (Dark Type Slayer attack) for STAB Super Effective damage on PsyMatthias. Base 50% chance of flinching which might be 100% flinch due to Super Effectiveness?
Harliette: Vespiquen and Wormadam use Attack Order and Bug Bite (both bug moves) on Psytellites B and C.
Moon: Vaporeon uses Helping Hand on Harliette. Lanturn uses Signal Beam, a bug move on PsyPierce.
Lexhur: Uses Grill Gore for strong dark type damage on PsyRenny.
Charlotte: Uses Arceus (Poison typed due to Toxic Plate) and his Poison typed Judgement on one of them Asura Beta A to knock it out with Super Effective Damage. Sol-Leks uses Dark Pulse on PsyImpact. Spends her Trainer Action to use Future Shock, centered on Psytellite E, Asura Beta E and Psytellite F.
Matthias: Porygon Z, Dark Pulse on PsyMatthias.
Pierce: Tyranitar uses Crunch (Dark) on a PsyPierce and Blaziken uses Overheat on Asura Beta D.
Impact: uses Swarm Bow for super-effective damage on PsyImpact. Pays 75 RPs to use C,C&C.
Shannon: Florescense uses X-Scissor on Psytellite B. Roserade uses Poison Jab on Asura Beta D.
Kurika: Uses Below the Belt for STAB Super-effective damage on PsyImpact.
Milsha: Uses Throat Harpoon for STAB Super-effective damage on PsyMatthias.
Cecilia: Splash Bomb on PsyPierce.
Aster: Lucario form, Divide Dark Pulse between Psytellite C and PsyPierce.
Harliette (2nd): does Desperado to do four powerful randomly aimed typeless attacks (Hopefully there are fewer targets since she attacks last, so there is less chance of a bad random attack).
Pierce’s Trainer Attack: on PsyPierce.
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Unread 08-24-2010, 08:34 PM   #83
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I've been thinking of alignements of the character's, and this is what I've gathered. I'll have to find quotes to go with them later. Some quotes that I have applioed didn't actually happen on screen, but they presumably happened at some poiint.

We have at least one character that seems to fit with each though.

Good

Lawful Good: Rayleen

Neutral Good: Renny

Chaotic Good: Pierce


Neutral

Lawful Neutral: Dormond (sort of kind of)

True Neutral: Matthias. Presumably.

Chaotic Neutral: Harliette

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Lawful Evil: Impact

"I propose I become Leader!"

Neutral Evil: Charlotte

"So can I just cap the bitch or what?"

Chaotic Evil: Discordia sounds like this from her name.
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Unread 08-24-2010, 08:37 PM   #84
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Pierce sorta skims the line between Neutral Good and Chaotic Good.
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Yeah, but I figured Renny fits neutral better than Pierce does, and he seems a bit more chaotic.

Its a bit meta, but the details of his sidequest was sort of the thing that made me decide to put him there.
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Unread 08-24-2010, 08:57 PM   #86
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Fair enough.

I dunno about Rayleen being Lawful Good, though. How many protocols has she broken between the first mission and now?

Not to mention, she derives a little too much pleasure from all the kicking ass and taking names.
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Actually I'd like to thank Gem for not revealing my motivations which he asked for in PM way back when. Good show sir.
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Matthias has motivations?
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Just because he doesn't yell out what he wants doesn't mean he doesn't want things.
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Technically, Renny is closer to Lawful Good, because he tends to behave as per a personal code of conduct of sort and has significant tendencies to follow traditional rules and orders if he thinks it'll benefit himself and his friends. Yes, he's not pure law since codes of conduct also leans towards chaos if it's not in allignment with society and the government. However, his is. He favors the law mainly because that is at the moment the best way to keep people safe and happy. (Mind you, Neutral Good is not a bad fit either.) Renny's allignment axis is way more focused on Good/Evil as opposed to Law/Chaos. Renny becoming neutral or even chaotic is not going to break his character and it might even be plausible as a character development. Renny going neutral or evil would be an jarring shift that is not plausible for his character at this time or any time soon.

Rayleen IS or at least does seem closer to law than Renny though, since she tries to rely on the law and follow protocol when at all possible, and her first instinct and tendency when coming across a situation is to use the law whether it be through protocols or through her extensive contacts. Her political motivation might also be a sign that she cares an awful lot about being lawful. Yes, she done some chaotic actions, but she never stops using the law at every first oppurtunity, even when chaos would just be easier. Yes, she won't shy from chaos if the law won't work at first, but that's part of dealing with lawbreakers and corrupt officials. However, her typical intent is to use and follow the law and her tendencies whenever possible is to use the law. She easily qualifies as lawful to me.

And being good doesn't mean you can't kick ass and take names, especially when the person wrong you first! :3 She won't pretend to be compassionate to those who deliberately obstruct her in accord with a corrupt and decadent scum of the earth. However I won't deny that when compared to Renny, she's closer to being Neutral in terms of Good/Evil, while Renny is closer to being Neutral in regards to Law/Chaos.


For the plan, I didn't intend for my proposed plan to be set in stone as it was since I left a few spots open/ambigious due to lack of information and such. But Drac adopted most of it into a more refined plan so I'm fine with it... mostly. There is an error with the plan...

Quote:
Aster: Lucario form, Divide STAB Dark Pulse between Psytellite C and PsyPierce.
Lucario is Fighting/Steel type and thus doesn't get STAB for Dark Pulse.

Quote:
I mean, something like:

Blaziken uses Fire Blast!
Pierce uses Trainer Attack! Pierce attacks Blaziken's target, except he doesn't actually do damage. In fact, for all intents and purposes, it counts as part of Blaziken's Fire Blast, and adds a chance to cause Instant Death or reduce Special Defense by one stage (depending on which weapon Pierce is using, and based on the chances those weapons normally have of inflicting statuses). No extra damage or anything.

Get it now?
So basically you're applying the Slayer effect of the weapon element you use onto a pokekmon move that your affected pokemon uses... But technically, the effect seems like it would be the same if Pierce was just attacking directly, since you aren't applying power to the move and all you're doing is adding the slayer stat affliction of the weapon Pierce is holding.
Is that about right?


EDIT: Anyhow, I'll write my post tomorrow after work.

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