Pokemon Umbral Theatre 1: Where All the Lurkers...Ah...Lurk

[Geminex]

Dead internet connection. Very annoying. Not my fault.

That Comic Was Amusing! Because I Say So! And I Am The Leader!
Though really, Impact isn't that stuck-up. He's more casual. And evil. And intelligent.
I mean honestly, that wasn't Impact, that was an idiot whose world revolves around being lead-OOOOOH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

Also, guess what day it is today?

Originally Posted by DanteFalcon

Actually I'd like to thank Gem for not revealing my motivations which he asked for in PM way back when. Good show sir.

Oh, yeah. Those. I hadn't really thought about them, to be honest. So yeah, no big deal. Besides, giving them away, that'd be discourteous. I leave people to spill their secrets themselves. (HEY EVERYBODY THAT MEANS YOU CAN TRUST ME WITH ALL YOUR SECRETS OH WAIT YOU ALREADY HAVE)
By the way, we never did get to make that deal, did we? Not that it really matters. Though I probably could have given you a pretty good one. In fact...
>: ]
H3Y, D4NT3.
4BOUT THOS3 MOT1V4T1ONS...


As for those techniques, Drac.
Ok. What. Seriously. Trainer attack did a minor amount of damage. Like, 10% of a pokemon's damage. Less, maybe. Even if that's not very useful now, and we decided to double it, to 20% (to compensate for the fact that enemies get stronger, thought that argument is extremely, extremely shaky, since I don't see us buffing any other techniques to compensate for enemies' growing strength, that's what level-ups are for) we wouldn't get anywhere near what you have now.
I mean seriously dude, what the fuck.
If AB approves that stuff, fine. His say.
But in that case, I'd request that Pokebrids and Slayers get something similar. Cause what you have right now isn't a low-damage attack. It's 5 free signature techniques. And that's a lot. Hell, one weaker one would be acceptable, for anything more than that, there needs to be compensation.

As for all those other suggestions I didn't actually see...

First set:
1) Though I think Menarker's proposal involved that the Pokebrid would have to pay 20 rage at the start of every turn it's shifted, and for the duration of a battle, it can only stay shifted for three turns at max? Or did I misinterpret that?
2) Trainers and Snaggers carry three. Slayers and Brids carry six. And I'd leave it at that.
3) Cool. Though I think he meant less usable accessories, and more hold items. Also, I'm not sure if it's totally necessary, but very well.
4) Ok, what the fuck. This is a good idea. A great idea. In fact, I PROPOSED THIS IDEA FIVE THREADS AGO AND YOU REJECTED IT AND SAID IT MADE NO SENSE. SERIOUSLY, WHAT.
Also, I combined this with signature techniques, and proposed that brids get new sync-techs instead of sig-techs.
5) I hadn't considered that. I think it'd work, though...
See, I don't think pokebrids are all that underpowered. They might not be our best damage dealers, but they have a huge variety of techniques. And if they paradigm shift, they're suddenly damage dealers as well! I mean come on, how much damage has Matt done this turn using hyper beam.

I'm mainly iffy about this entire thing because
a) I don't really think they need all that much power once their paradigm shifts have been fixed (though I guess most of the above seems allright)
and
b) Menarker is making these proposals. Now, there's two possible motivations for this:
1) Menarker has suddenly become selfless and decided that the game's more fun when everybody has the same degree of power
2) Menarker wants to go pokebrid later and is getting a head start on overpowering that class
I'm reaaaally not sure which it is. I mean, sure, man, maybe you've decided to stop being a competitive douche, but until you've made a post saying "I agree to all the Regulations.", I am not going to trust you.

Dracorion's stuff, has that been accepted?

Also, my suggestion for self-customization, did you actually accept that as well?

[Astral Harmony]

I did read about self-customization. So you tell me. What do you want to change about the levels you take?

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Also, guess what day it is today?

Wait a minute.

You were born?

I could've sworn some mad scientist grew you in a barn. Oh well, congrats.

Originally Posted by Geminex

(HEY EVERYBODY THAT MEANS YOU CAN TRUST ME WITH ALL YOUR SECRETS OH WAIT YOU ALREADY HAVE)

Oh it's so cute how you think that.

Originally Posted by Geminex

As for those techniques, Drac.
Ok. What. Seriously. Trainer attack did a minor amount of damage. Like, 10% of a pokemon's damage. Less, maybe. Even if that's not very useful now, and we decided to double it, to 20% (to compensate for the fact that enemies get stronger, thought that argument is extremely, extremely shaky, since I don't see us buffing any other techniques to compensate for enemies' growing strength, that's what level-ups are for) we wouldn't get anywhere near what you have now.
I mean seriously dude, what the fuck.
If AB approves that stuff, fine. His say.
But in that case, I'd request that Pokebrids and Slayers get something similar. Cause what you have right now isn't a low-damage attack. It's 5 free signature techniques. And that's a lot. Hell, one weaker one would be acceptable, for anything more than that, there needs to be compensation.

Oh they're hardly Signature Techniques. Seriously, one 50 Rage Signature Technique is like three times as useful as my proposed Trainer Actions put together. And we don't even have very many 50 Rage Signature Techniques!

Hell, the reason I didn't take these straight to AB was so we could discuss them and reach an agreement! If you're just going to reject them straight off the bat, there's not much point to proposing stuff so we can discuss them, is there?

Out of curiosity, did you read Menarker's and my discussion on them or just my original suggestions because of time constraints?

Originally Posted by Geminex

As for all those other suggestions I didn't actually see...

First set:
1) Though I think Menarker's proposal involved that the Pokebrid would have to pay 20 rage at the start of every turn it's shifted, and for the duration of a battle, it can only stay shifted for three turns at max? Or did I misinterpret that?

Yep, this is what I thought Menarker's proposal would do too.

If the Pokebrid has to pay 20 Rage each for three turns of Paradigm Shift up front, that's exactly like it is now!

Originally Posted by Geminex

4) Ok, what the fuck. This is a good idea. A great idea. In fact, I PROPOSED THIS IDEA FIVE THREADS AGO AND YOU REJECTED IT AND SAID IT MADE NO SENSE. SERIOUSLY, WHAT.
Also, I combined this with signature techniques, and proposed that brids get new sync-techs instead of sig-techs.

No you didn't. I mean, I don't exactly remember what you proposed, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't what Menarker proposed.

Though I dunno if your proposal was like what AB decided to do in the end.

Originally Posted by Geminex

5) I hadn't considered that. I think it'd work, though...
See, I don't think pokebrids are all that underpowered. They might not be our best damage dealers, but they have a huge variety of techniques. And if they paradigm shift, they're suddenly damage dealers as well! I mean come on, how much damage has Matt done this turn using hyper beam.

Problem being that Paradigm Shifting is extremely costly.

Also, name me one Sync-Tech Matt has used this mission and I'll show you hateful lies, because I'm fairly certain he hasn't gotten anywhere near 100 Rage.

Originally Posted by Geminex

I'm mainly iffy about this entire thing because
a) I don't really think they need all that much power once their paradigm shifts have been fixed (though I guess most of the above seems allright)
and
b) Menarker is making these proposals. Now, there's two possible motivations for this:
1) Menarker has suddenly become selfless and decided that the game's more fun when everybody has the same degree of power
2) Menarker wants to go pokebrid later and is getting a head start on overpowering that class
I'm reaaaally not sure which it is. I mean, sure, man, maybe you've decided to stop being a competitive douche, but until you've made a post saying "I agree to all the Regulations.", I am not going to trust you.

You can't actually reject his stuff on the basis of not trusting him. Or, well, you can, but you shouldn't reject his stuff on the basis of not trusting him, unless you have evidence he can't be trusted.

Just run your critical eye over the proposals and approve them if you think they're good and Menarker can't abuse them in any way. You can make note that you reserve the right to change your mind, just in case it turns out later that they are broken and OMG MENARKER TRICKED YOU BWA HA HA.

My opinion? I think Menarker is serving his own interests. However, that doesn't mean he's not right. I mean hell, when you proposed buffs for Slayer, and when I proposed buffs for Trainer we were both serving our own interests, but that didn't instantly make us wrong.

Originally Posted by Geminex

Dracorion's stuff, has that been accepted?

Nope. I haven't put it in orange for AB because I knew you were going to whine about it.

Originally Posted by Geminex

You think self-customization makes a difference here? It's gonna be imbalanced no matter what we do, and this way at least the system will be logical.

... Okay, okay. I think you're talking less about customizing our own classes here and more about changing the combat system in regards to different classes.

Which is exactly what you tried to do when you proposed your support system. In which case, -2 points for disguising your proposal as a different one. Bad Geminex, BAD! Don't do that anymore!

Keep in mind that your support system idea wasn't actually rejected. I went and proposed a perfectly reasonable compromise, remember?

Originally Posted by Geminex

Ok, first, sequel thing? That makes no fucking sense. I don't envision Impact as fighting much in the sequel. And honestly, what reasons are there for that?

What, now you're trying to get him to spoil sequel stuff for you?

A) I'm fairly certain he's already told you more about the sequel than he should, and B) it's his right as the GM not to tell you sequel stuff if he doesn't want you.

Originally Posted by Geminex

Weaker one:
Redirect!
1 Action
Retroactively redirect 1 enemy attack from last round, to hit a different target (the whole "retroactive" thing cause I can't use this in real-time).

OH MAN WOW.

I PROPOSED A TRAINER ACTION THAT'S EXACTLY LIKE THIS.

EXCEPT IT'S NOT RETROACTIVE, SO YOU CAN'T USE IT TO TAKE AWAY AN ATTACK YOU REALLY REALLY DON'T LIKE.

AND Y'KNOW WHAT? IT DOESN'T COST RAGE EITHER LIKE THIS ONE. BETTER YET, IT EVEN ONLY REDIRECTS ONE ATTACK SPECIFICALLY AT ONE OF PIERCE'S POKEMON, NOT JUST ANY ALLY.

OH WOW.

Dick.

Originally Posted by Geminex

Sorry, but going "Nope you can't have that cause I say so" while giving Trainers and Snaggers 5 extra signature techniques is complete and utter bullshit.

Technically, he's the GM. It's his right, nay, his duty, to reject anything and everything.