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Unread 04-04-2011, 11:38 PM   #1
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Serious Obama 2012
So, the guy is in for the long run going for term 2 on a new campaign and a new slogan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-VZLvVF1FQ

"It begins with us"

So i guess it hasn't begun yet?

Now, as an international observer, i get to see things from another perspective, while loosing the internal perspective of actually being in that culture and living in that country. So, here is the thing... the guy doesn't seem that bad, and it's really hard to do a decent job when half of the people you work with are assholes and half of the other half seem incompetent.

Still, it seems like considering all... it was best than what was expected and better than what could've been. So... overall good enough ?

Again, as an International Observer, whatever the hell happens in the USA kinda resonates everywhere else in the world. In politics, economy specially.

So, i don't know if you guys are picking him again, or maybe someone else... but could you pretty please with a cherry on top, not pick one of the asshole nutjobs that seem to be on the opposed side? Like... i heard you get some independents every now and then, how about some of those?
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Unread 04-04-2011, 11:40 PM   #2
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2008: Obama. Hope and change. Yes we can!

2011: Obama. ...At least he ain't Republican?
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Unread 04-04-2011, 11:52 PM   #3
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If Ron Wyden comes up as a candidate please, vote for him. Yes, he's Republican to get into the Senate, but this is a guy that was a Libertarian. He will fight for a smaller government. And he's not crazy like the Tea Party nuts.
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Should this be in the news forum?

I honestly don't know who/what I'll vote for in the coming election yet. I've never been a huge Obama supporter though.
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He will fight for a smaller government.
That sure is a nice set of buzzwords that means different things depending on who is saying it.

As in, if the person means fewer regulations on big business, lesser taxes for the rich, a weaker safety net for the poor, etc, I don't see any way in which they are not a awful candidate.
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2008: Obama. Hope and change. Yes we can!

2011: Obama. ...At least he ain't Republican?
Good enough for me.
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That sure is a nice set of buzzwords that means different things depending on who is saying it.

As in, if the person means fewer regulations on big business, lesser taxes for the rich, a weaker safety net for the poor, etc, I don't see any way in which they are not a awful candidate.
He's questioned the ICE takedowns

Wants debate on Patriot Act instead of automatic passing of it

Wants GE to pay their taxes

Resimplify the Tax codes

He seems pretty stand up.
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That sure is a nice set of buzzwords that means different things depending on who is saying it.

As in, if the person means fewer regulations on big business, lesser taxes for the rich, a weaker safety net for the poor, etc, I don't see any way in which they are not a awful candidate.
Well libertarian generally suggests they mean it in every conceivable way, but it doesn't matter, because a libertarian candidate will only be able to advance the agenda of smaller government along those lines in most cases.
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While I will be sorely tempted to write in Pinkie Pie as my preferred Presidential candidate, every time I feel that temptation I'll force myself to imagine what it would be like if Sarah Palin was President of the United States of America.

...and then I'd puke.

...and then I'd vote Obama.
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Palin is the president this system deserves.
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