My Little Pony: Friendship is Mafia

[rpgdemon]

PS: Would someone please tell me what being Serial Killer would mean? It's a lead that we have, and if I'm an unknown/passive scummy role, just take me out for the day, so that Snake definitely won't get his Jestery kill, if that's his angle.

Until further notice, I'mma go ahead and
vote: RPGDemon

Town victory still counts when you're dead?

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Until further notice, I'mma go ahead and
vote: RPGDemon

...
...You were doing so relatively decently with your logic in criticizing me, like seriously yours was the first criticism of me that actually made me do a double take and say "...Huh..."

...and then you did this.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Faulty logic. That's the gambler's fallacy. If, let's say, they both have a 50% chance of being scum, the fact that one isn't scum doesn't mean that the other is, nor does it increase the odds that the other is.


I propose that, until Day 1 is over, we don't listen to Snake. Just ignore him. After that, he can do whatever he wants, we can do whatever we want, but if he wants a Day 1 lynch to himself, or someone else, we shouldn't give it to him. (I'm assuming Jester's win means the town loses? Or is it just a separate win?)

Right now, all he's doing is keeping people from voting properly, and keeping things incredibly disorganized, making it impossible to pin anyone down as scum. Really, from all his ravings, voting has gone haywire, and the scum now have a huge haven to hide with, because of all the double mobius reacharounds and Xanatos Gambits flying everywhere.

If he is really trying to be helpful, then he's suffering from a severe case of fancy play syndrome. It's what happens, for example, in Magic (For those that play the game), when you attack your weak guy into a more powerful blocker, with mana available and cards in hand. Against an opponent who plays well, they might be bluffed into not blocking, as they don't want to risk some sort of trick. Against a new player, they'll block every time, since they don't even consider the combat trick, and they'll laugh at you for playing stupidly.

If he's trying to be helpful, Snake is the guy that attempted a bluff, that the new player was too inexperienced to read. Meaning, whatever he's doing, he's being fancy and neat with it, and it's going way over the heads of the town and actually actively hurting it. The scum now has a huge hive to hide in, and Snake will say anyone who votes AT ALL is scum, since "Nope, I accused them! Hah! I can't believe it! You fell for the trap again! Man! Again! Look, I caught every scum with the same trap four times!"

Unvote: Snake

FTHOO: rpgdemon

Fuck MTG.
Friendship is magic.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Actually Serial Killer is a decidedly not Town role. The mail you received from Fenris would have almost certainly pointed this out to you. Without question, it would have been in the format of

Role: Serial Killer. Alignment: Yourself.
or something to that effect.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Re: Bookworm: I was incredibly disappointed that your first three lines weren't a haiku. One syllable off, man.

It's 5-7-5 man I am deep within the Haiku zone.

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

TRAPPED


...You fell for the trap AND you didn't even give any independent reasoning for voting Nikose beyond merely falling for the trap, even when you've quoted me ranting and raving about how much I hate people voting and not justifying their votes with reasons! And worst of all you're constantly abusing Pinkie Pie GIFs and everyone knows you can't do that with Snake around, Snake owns the intellectual property of those damn GIFs

I buh wah Jesus fuck Snake

Originally Posted by Geminex

Also, I'm gonna follow my hunch and assume that bookie's got scummy ulterior motives.

Vote: Bookworm

Very good, Mr. Geminex. Very good. You have deciphered my plot. But it is too late to stop me now. Soon the death ray will be activated. First Equestria, then the world.

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

I made up a bullcrap case against Nikose but clothed it in enough official-sounding smart words so as to attempt to deceive scum into bandwagoning him

Uh, Snake, there is a legitimate case against Nikose, since he was pretty clearly lying about something.

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

PS: Would someone please tell me what being Serial Killer would mean? It's a lead that we have, and if I'm an unknown/passive scummy role, just take me out for the day, so that Snake definitely won't get his Jestery kill, if that's his angle.

The SK is self-aligned meaning that he is trying to kill off both the Mafia and Town to win. They can kill one person a Night.

If you're thinking "Holy shitbricks, that sounds hard" then yeah, I don't think I've ever heard of the SK actually winning a Mafia game.

[rpgdemon]

Originally Posted by Karesh

Unvote: Snake

FTHOO: rpgdemon

Fuck MTG.
Friendship is magic.

Incidentally, I was gonna use Poker (All but one card of a straight on the table in Texas Hold'em, the new player keeps his pair of aces, since he doesn't see it), but then I thought Magic would be a better example.

And, hey, you play Magic with your friends. Friendship is Magic.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

For me, something about Hawk feels decidedly scummy, but I feel bad voting for him day one since he's new. But at the same time, that's the reason why I feel like he's scummy, since he's all, "Well, I'm town! Towning it up! I just have a reason the scum won't target me now, since it's mean to do so! But town won't vote for me, since I'm town."

It feels like he's setting himself up with an excuse, "Oh, they must not have killed me since I'm new.", and not really defending himself aside from, "I'm town, and thus have nothing to fear from a lynch."

Meh, maybe I am running abit too much towards the sympathy vote right now, but that's only because being lynched/killed night one would suck balls, and I do actually want to stick around long enough to learn the ins and outs of the game. I have no illusions of suriving to the end, hell I'll probably be killed off before I get halfway, but I atleast want a chance to, yano, actually play the game a bit before that happens. I can't really do much else to defend myself right now, I've only made 2 votes, 1 a joke and the other a genuine concern over a suspicious plan that you put forth, and I've stuck with it since. I seem to recall your defence to that was to simply post a youtube video that didn't explain anything.

The only other things I've done is ask questions about the game and try to wrap my head around all these backwards arguments, but none of them have done much to convince me of anything right now. What more can I do to defend myself?

Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

Anyways, Hawk gives me an odd vibe because of his weird pseudo presence, but he might just be new or busy so I dunno. However, Snake flipping right around on his head sorta gives him an odd feel to, like what if he's the Jester (whatever that means) like Smarty accused? Also, IHMN seems just flippant enough to get me suspicious.

HOS: Hawk, Snake, and IHMN

You're suspicious of me for... what, not posting on every page in the thread? Or not posting every other post like some people? What?! I do actually have stuff to do in the day man. There are people who haven't posted at all, or posted only once, what about their pseudo presence?

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I'm drinking the crazy Kool-Aid.
Unvote: Fawcopter
Vote: IHMN
I don't agree with your reasoning and think there are problems with it but to be honest I don't have a better plan and nobody else has a better plan.
So I'll jump aboard the Snaketrain...ohhhyeah.
Oh god what am I doing?

[Bard The 5th LW]

Okay this is beginning to lose coherency.

Anyways, Hawk gives me an odd vibe because of his weird pseudo presence, but he might just be new or busy so I dunno. However, Snake flipping right around on his head sorta gives him an odd feel to, like what if he's the Jester (whatever that means) like Smarty accused? Also, IHMN seems just flippant enough to get me suspicious.

HOS: Hawk, Snake, and IHMN

Fawfulcopter, like I said, seems to really just be a buffer for whatever side he is on. If we kill him, and he's townie, we don't lose anything besides an extra number. Like, if he's a power role, then I doubt he would have been much use either. The gamble is whether he is fodder for Town, or Scum. Or Cult, whatever that means in the context here.

Vote: IHMN

Something about the gifs makes me suspicious, not Snake's reasoning.

[Solid Snake]

Goddammit every time an immediate bandwagon starts on someone I've just voted for it is so freaking suspicious
It is most suspicious coming from the guy who just sounded like he completely had absolutely and utterly no respect for the way I was playing the game, though
Like how can you simultaneously as Town come to the conclusion that "Snake is utterly insane and/or scum and I'm going to believe him anyway"

HOS: Smarty

Still keeping my vote on IHMN because I want to hear something of actual substance from him and maybe he'll start taking things seriously if he feels the pressure