My Little Pony: Friendship is Mafia - Page 31

rpgdemon · 09-27-2011, 03:29 PM

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This totally isn't true it's only tied his life to mine if he finds out i'm lieing.

Yeah, which is the important thing. We want to know if you're lying. That is the whole test. We don't believe you. You have set up the test so that if you're lying, you take out a key role with you. Which is what a scum would do, because they don't want to be caught.

You set it up so that a liar wins.

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Originally Posted by Sifright

my proposed plan doesn't allow the mafia to find out who the investigator is ASSUMING i am town. Which means if i am a townie it's the best way for me to operate.

Which means it's the worst way for you to operate for a townie who cares about the town. If you want the town to win, you don't hold a power role hostage, period.

rpgdemon · 09-27-2011, 03:33 PM

IHMN: That means that for the rest of the game, the guard will have to be tied up protecting the investigator? What if the guard gets killed or turned in the first turn?

It's not a logical plan at all. Yes, it works for the very short term, with luck, but in the long term it doesn't work.

Oron · 09-27-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

IHMN: That means that for the rest of the game, the guard will have to be tied up protecting the investigator? What if the guard gets killed or turned in the first turn?

It's not a logical plan at all. Yes, it works for the very short term, with luck, but in the long term it doesn't work.

Plus, it ties up the bodyguard. If something's discovered during one of the days and it seems apparent that another player will be targeted, the bodyguard's going to have to choose between the investigator and that other player. That doesn't sound particularly good.

rpgdemon · 09-27-2011, 03:52 PM

Searching his posts, it seems Snake suspects (Or at least mentioned by name):

Bob the Merc
IHateMakingNames
Smarty
Nik
RPGDemon
Sifright

I encourage someone else to check (Especially Snake), but that's what I saw at least.

Sifright · 09-27-2011, 03:26 PM

Unvote: Nikose

Vote: Hawk

Basically you are misrepresenting all my ideas to try show them as if they would be a terrible thing for town to do despite the fact that if i'm town it's at the very least a safe way to operate and if i was scum it would be a stupid thing to do because it would get me killed the very next day. do bare mind a guard roll could keep the investigator dude alive the night he 'reveals' me to be mafia if i was actually mafia.

Gregness · 09-27-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sifright

Unvote: Nikose

Vote: Hawk

Basically you are misrepresenting all my ideas to try show them as if they would be a terrible thing for town to do despite the fact that if i'm town it's at the very least a safe way to operate and if i was scum it would be a stupid thing to do because it would get me killed the very next day. do bare mind a guard roll could keep the investigator dude alive the night he 'reveals' me to be mafia if i was actually mafia.

Incidently, saccing one mafioso for the investigator is completely worth it for scum.

IHateMakingNames · 09-27-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Furthermore, reading your plan again Sif, it's completely full of holes, and benefits scum more than I originally thought.

You're saying, "Hey, Investigator. Either I get away with being scum, or you die tomorrow. Silence means I live, coming forward and saying something means I die."

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Originally Posted by Sifright

do bare mind a guard roll could keep the investigator dude alive the night he 'reveals' me to be mafia if i was actually mafia.

Unvote: Nikose
Vote: Hawk
HOS: rpgdemon

Sifright · 09-27-2011, 03:32 PM

Thats ridiculous I've set it up in a way which allows for silence to provide information and keep his role safe. As I know for a fact i'm townie what it means is that for me to be lynched the next day a mafia player HAS to lie to try and get me killed which means BAM instant mafia player lynched the day after.

rpgdemon · 09-27-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sifright

Thats ridiculous I've set it up in a way which allows for silence to provide information and keep his role safe. As I know for a fact i'm townie what it means is that for me to be lynched the next day a mafia player HAS to lie to try and get me killed which means BAM instant mafia player lynched the day after.

Of the two choices, I'd rather have our investigator be given the option to reveal himself and save you if you're telling the truth, than you say that he has to reveal himself to kill you.

Why are you so against the idea that if you're scum, you would be proven scum and the investigator wouldn't be revealed?

rpgdemon · 09-27-2011, 03:38 PM

It's entirely possible that you're making an assumption that you shouldn't in making your plans: We can't trust you to be town.

Even though you know that you're town, if you are town, we don't, and you're acting very suspect.

09-27-2011, 03:33 PM	#2
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	IHMN: That means that for the rest of the game, the guard will have to be tied up protecting the investigator? What if the guard gets killed or turned in the first turn? It's not a logical plan at all. Yes, it works for the very short term, with luck, but in the long term it doesn't work. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

09-27-2011, 03:52 PM	#4
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	Searching his posts, it seems Snake suspects (Or at least mentioned by name): Bob the Merc IHateMakingNames Smarty Nik RPGDemon Sifright I encourage someone else to check (Especially Snake), but that's what I saw at least. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

09-27-2011, 03:38 PM	#10
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	It's entirely possible that you're making an assumption that you shouldn't in making your plans: We can't trust you to be town. Even though you know that you're town, if you are town, we don't, and you're acting very suspect. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

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09-27-2011, 03:26 PM	#5
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	Unvote: Nikose Vote: Hawk Basically you are misrepresenting all my ideas to try show them as if they would be a terrible thing for town to do despite the fact that if i'm town it's at the very least a safe way to operate and if i was scum it would be a stupid thing to do because it would get me killed the very next day. do bare mind a guard roll could keep the investigator dude alive the night he 'reveals' me to be mafia if i was actually mafia.

09-27-2011, 03:32 PM	#8
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	Thats ridiculous I've set it up in a way which allows for silence to provide information and keep his role safe. As I know for a fact i'm townie what it means is that for me to be lynched the next day a mafia player HAS to lie to try and get me killed which means BAM instant mafia player lynched the day after.